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isaac bickerstaffs in laws
« on: Saturday 02 June 07 19:02 BST (UK) »

 i have an Isaac bickerstaff he is married to a Harriet Louisa Pertaim could anybody find her parents.
 isaac was born in 1843 and harriet in 1847 both in the birmingham area
Swift Motherwell, Struthers Motherwell, Hathaway South wales, Oram South Wales, Hathaway Birmingham area

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Re: isaac bickerstaffs in laws
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 June 07 20:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Marhat

Are you sure about Harriet's maiden name?

"Pertaim" returns no search results at all in any of the Censuses or birth, marriage or death registrations.

And do you have their marriage certificate? It will of course name Harriet's father...
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: isaac bickerstaffs in laws
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 June 07 23:45 BST (UK) »


 Sorry i spelt her surname wrong it should read Periam
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Re: isaac bickerstaffs in laws
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 June 07 00:24 BST (UK) »
Hi again

This may be her birth registration...

Harriet Louisa PERIAM
June qtr 1848, Birmingham vol 16 p 373

And this might be Harriet as well...

1851 Birmingham (St Peter)
HO 107/2054 folio 392 pages 16-17
Address: 119 Canal St
Henery W PERIAM, head, 41, screw bolt maker, London
Ann, wife, 46, Hagley Worcestershire
William H., son, 18, screw bolt maker, [Holly Hall Worcestershire?]
John J., son, 17, screw bolt maker, Stourbridge Worcestershire
Thomas E., son, 12,, scholar, Bnm Warwickshire
Elizabeth, daur, 10, scholar,  Bnm Warwickshire
Charles, son, 8, scholar,  Bnm Warwickshire
Harriet L., dau, 2,  Bnm Warwickshire

1861 Birmingham (St Martin)
RG 9/2145 folio 48 page 32
Address: 9 Barford St
Ann PERIAM, head, mar, 56, screw-bolt mk, Hagley Worcesters
Harriet, daur, 13, nurse girl, Birmm Warwicks
Herbert, son, 11, Birmm Warwicks

Where was Henry? This looks likely...

1861 Oxton & Woodchurch (Tranmere) Cheshire
RG 9/2647 folio 72 page 40
Address: Hawthorn Cottages
Louisa E. PASSMORE, head, mar, 46, school mistress, 46, Edmonton Middlesex
Henry W. PERIAM, visitor, mar, 51, screw bolt maker, London
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast


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Re: isaac bickerstaffs in laws
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 June 07 00:36 BST (UK) »
Possible death registration...

Ann PERIAM, Sept qtr 1863 Birmingham 6d 53
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 June 07 00:52 BST (UK) »
1881 Lydney, Gloucestershire
RG 11/5222 folio 36 page 3

Address: Not stated
James PASSMORE, head, mar, 73, farmer 5 acres, Exeter Devon
Louisa E., wife, 66, Edmonton Middx
Henry W PERIAM, brother in law, mar [sic] , 71, retired screw bolt maker, London

Possible death registration:

Henry William PERIAM (age 80)
March qtr 1890, Bristol 6a 38

Possible marriage
Henry William PERIAM m. Ann THOMAS
21 June 1831 at St Thomas, Dudley Worcs
Source: IGI
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: isaac bickerstaffs in laws
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 June 07 14:44 BST (UK) »

 thank you so much, i have never heard of Periam as a surname before, was there many when you did your search, i wonder where it comes from
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 June 07 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hi again Marhat

If memory serves, most of the Periam search results came from the west country. Suggest you try entering the surname on FreeBMD to get a feel.

It's a shame that Henry was so vague about his birthplace - London?. Perhaps he didn't know himself!
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: isaac bickerstaffs in laws
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 December 10 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Re Periam
I have just begun to include this family in my research - the screw manufacturing Periam family lived in Shirley, Solihull. Herbert William Periam b: c.1791 & Mary Jane b: c.1797 Had 3 children that I know of. Herbert Bonnet Periam b: 1879, John Shirley Periam b: 1880 (married Alice Maude Turner), Charlotte Ann Periam b: 1883 (married Arthur Brewster)
The Periam nuts & bolts business is still operating in Birmingham.
An old post I know, & you've probably found this by now, but it is nice to put the families together.