The mysterious Jane CARVER

[Easby Carver]

Hi Janan,

Currently going alphabetically through the 1921 census for my lot and have reached, no speedy Gonzales me, B for Bowler (!)

Having very little success in tracking down (and not for the first time!) Isabella M (b 1883, Caterham) but I did notice a JOHN BOWLER, b Elstow, aged 60y 10m on the 1921c and am wondering if he is actually Isabella's father John William, also b Elstow around 1858.   The 1921 location is Portobello Road, Kensington and Theresa his stated wife is from the West Indies which is provocative.   I currently have no death for JOHN WILLIAM BOWLER.

Hope this makes sense.

Any steers on Isabella and John William gratefully received.

Thanks,

Neil (Easby)

[janan]

Hi Neil
Sorry I've no ideas about your Bowlers - how do they connect with the Carvers?

Jan

[LizzieL]

Back to Jane Carver. She was baptised in 1835, but census age implies she may have been born about 1833, so she would be 8 in 1841. Maybe staying with relatives on census night. Have you checked grandparents or aunts and uncles families?
It looks like Mercy's maiden name was Bird, but can't find her baptism, so no idea of her parent's names

[amondg]

Bedfordshire Mercury 2 August 1890.  Re: Inquest into the death of Jane Carver aged 73. Died 25 July 1890

Paraphrasing. Single woman lived with brother  Alfred Carver- Wheelwright.

[janan]

Thank you for your interest Lizzie and amondg

I've looked everywhere for Jane as a possible 8 year old in 1841 and also as a 20 year old or so going on her death date, similar searches for her  in 1851. I haven't found a likely Jane 8/18 anywhere in 41/51. The only possibilities for an older Jane were those I mentioned in my original post ie in 1841 Jane Bird age 20 servant to a Grocer in Newport Pagnell and in 1851 Rosa Carver 24 in Luton bound server to a Grocer.

Yes the newspaper entry does nicely confirm the 73 yr old Jane dying in 1890 as the correct person.

Re her mother Mercy, she was baptised in Wrestlingworth 12 April 1801 parents John and Susan Bird mistranscibed as Mary on the IGI.

Thanks again
Jan

[LizzieL]

Re her mother Mercy, she was baptised in Wrestlingworth 12 April 1801 parents John and Susan Bird mistranscibed as Mary on the IGI.

I did wonder about that one, as the same couple had an earlier Mary and I couldn't see a death for her as a child.

[LizzieL]

It might be that she was with her parents in 1841, but got missed off the census somehow. Either by her father on the householder's form, or (possibly more likely) by the enumerator when he transcribed the householder's form into his book. If Young was illiterate and had to get a third party to fill in the form, then there's another source of error.
In 1851 she is possibly a servant somewhere like in 1861. If so, her employer would have filled in the householder's form and could easily get details wrong.

[LizzieL]

The Rosa Carver who is in Houghton Regi near Luton  is a lodger with the grocer's family and her occupation is a bonnet sewer. Her birthplace is given as Luton, which is some way from Wrestlingworth, which is almost Cambridgeshire.

[LizzieL]

Rosa Carver does seem to be a mystery, no baptism record (but she may not have been baptised or record not on line). Can't find her in any other census and can't find a likely marriage or death.