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Re: William MORRIS - Llanllechid
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 13 April 08 18:22 BST (UK) »
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Re: William MORRIS - Llanllechid
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 13 April 08 21:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Thanks for that.  I will contact him to see if he can help. Hope he doesn't mind

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Re: William MORRIS - Llanllechid
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 13 April 08 22:46 BST (UK) »
Washy

AHA!  You have viewed the gravestone then - go off those details. 

I will bet my last pound that the translation (if in Welsh) says "in her 90th year" which means she was 89 !

Death cert will be Bangor Civil district.  Parish/ecclesiastical district for any church records would be Llandegai!!!!

The later census records asked for "age LAST birthday" hence the year difference so she was born after 5th April (1891 was the 5th April the latest date the census over the 3 was taken - for ref:- 1881 was 3rd April and 1901 was 31st March)

(eg my grandmother in the 1901 census is recorded as being 12 years of age - so one automatically thinks she was born in 1889 - no wrong; she was born in 1888.  Her age "last birthday" on 26th April 1900 was 12 - she was just 26 days away from becoming a teenager!)

In 1851 61 and 71 it just asked for age - and the Welsh tradition in North Wales at least was to give the year the person was living in as on the gravestone example above so she could well have been 10 in 1851 living in her 11th year etc etc - so this too would point to 1840 for her birth year and the gravestone would back that up.

Her marriage cert - well that might depend on the age of her husband......at that time age difference meant quite a lot and so did the actual marrying age of a woman.  These factors too must be considered.

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Re: William MORRIS - Llanllechid
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 13 April 08 22:58 BST (UK) »
MAIR !! Are you saying women lied about their ages that long ago, well really  :P
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« Reply #40 on: Sunday 13 April 08 23:00 BST (UK) »
NO, I am saying that society brought pressure to bear on them and whereas today there are solutions then there were not...........

and we ladies do not lie - we just do not believe in inflation!
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Re: William MORRIS - Llanllechid
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 13 April 08 23:52 BST (UK) »
Well that makes sense. She would have lied about her age as she was around 10 years older than gt granddad. :) He says 21 on cert but was only abt 19 can't tell exactly as he lied on every census. Just goes to show it's not just us women  ;D

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Re: William MORRIS - Llanllechid
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 13 April 08 23:57 BST (UK) »
Well wot yer know!

Glad the "theory" fits in - this is where the hunches start to play a part.

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Re: William MORRIS - Llanllechid
« Reply #43 on: Monday 14 April 08 00:11 BST (UK) »
Been on free bmd looks like only one likely candidate. Will send for it & keep my fingers crossed.  :) Then go after the rest of family.