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[Meliora]

There is an interesting item in the 1871 census for the William E. Winter family.

The son Arthur aged 9 is shown as paralyzed in the end column that list any disabilities.

I have also just realised why William E. Winter is shown as Housemaid in the View Record list on Ancestry.  The Hd. in the relation ship column, instead of bring transcribed as Head it is shown as Housemaid.   I have seen & heard some funny ones in my time but that takes the biscuit.

This mis-transcription can also apply where the name John appears as father or spouse for all the enrtries in the View Others on Page list, if you had clicked on View Original Image you would have seen the correct familes grouped together.

Meliora

[patrish]

He is not the only one like that either, I checked a couple of others a J. Dean and W. Farmer down as Housemaids when in fact they are Labourer and Lighterman 

Good old mistrancription  again 

[marhat]

  so you both reckon that it was just a mistake in the transcriptions, by tne way i have Arthur S (Sidney) married with 2 sons in 1901. He is married to a Girl called Bertha Marsh  Have I got it wight?

[marhat]

  Hi Meliora.
              You said that it says that Arthur was down as paralyzed, in the list i have from Ancestery it says in the space for where born "Westr Paralyse, Middlesex, England". The other 4 children in the family says "Westr,Middlesex, England, could that be the Paralyzed that you found.
                         mary

[Meliora]

You cannot always take transcriptions for granted, that they are correct, you should always check the original entries.    Mistakes can occur in those as well, many census, particularly the earlier ones, relied on what the enumerator was told & what he thought he heard, then mistakes took place when they were copied from his entry books to the records.  We have to take a broad view of what we see in transcriptions & work out what best fits what we are looking for.

I cannot tell you just from looking at the 1901 census whether the entry for Arthur Sidney Winter is the son of William & Martha.  To find out whether he is or not you would have to find & buy the marriage cert, this will tell you his father's name.

This should help
Marriage
William Sidney Winter  =  Bertha Marsh
Dec ¼ 1892  Lambeth 1d  692

1901 census info
On the same page & living in the same street as Arthur Sidney Winter is a James G Winter born 1858 Westminster

RG13/427  folio 161  page 17
12, Vicary St. Lambeth, Brixton

James G. Winter  head  age 43  Housedecorator b  Westminster
Hannah  wife age39  b  Marylebone
Richard J.  son  age 15  Printer's Labourer  b   ditto
Ethel M.  dau age 12      b  St Pancras
James G.  son age 5     b  Grays, Essex
Laura  dau  age3    b  Hammersmith London
William E   son  age    b   dittp

16, Vicary St, Lambeth ,  Brixton

Arthur Sidney Winter  head  age 39  ironmonger b  London
Bertha  wife age 29  b  Whitstable
Eric M.  son  age 7    b  London
Reginald  son  age 5   b   ditto
Kate  Marsh, sister in law  age 14    b  London

In your request posts, if you have found anything in any of the census, please post the Distict, Piece no, folio & page no, this eliminates anyone wishing to help having to spend time searching for it.

Meliora

[Meliora]

Re. the entry for Arthur being paralyzed.

You are again relying on a transcription that can be wrong. 

You must look at the original census image.

RG10/122 folio 34  page 19
 
The last column on the right hand side is headed
whether
1)  deaf & dumb
2)  blind
3)  Imbecile or idiot
4)  Lunatic.

The enumerator always also entered if there was any disability, in Arthur's case he has entered Paralyzed.  Once I found an entry in my own research that said a young man had only one leg, the previous census had not mentioned this.  This led me to trace the fact that he had had the leg removed in hospital.

Meliora

[marhat]

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