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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 May 07 15:31 BST (UK) »
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Can I please have a death look up please for Elizabeth Jones nee Teakle wife of Charles Jones
Date unknown but after 1850

Sorry about giving you the kids that you already had - I made the presumption that 1850 was the last you had seen of her.

Do you have Charles death certificate? this will list the names of his children which would probably include the two baptized in the two years following the marriage.  It will also indicate if any of his children are deceased by 1875.
It will also give an idea of when he may have came to Australia.

Elizabeth may have remarried.   Have you checked to see if she is buried with her husband?

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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 May 07 16:11 BST (UK) »
While looking for deaths / marriages for George & Harriet I spotted this death - which has no matching birth registration.

Charles JONES died 1854, aged 6 weeks, father Charles, mother Elizabeth
Birthplace shown as Moorabbin, where Francis & Sophia were registered.

I'm sorry, the names are just too common to pick any marriages for them, and I cannot find deaths either, so they have probably popped over the border into NSW (which you can search yourself free online)   

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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 May 07 00:53 BST (UK) »
The index's do not give parents names so it would be extremely difficult for anyone to find their marriages .


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Frank Jones was single and I have his death cert


Do you have any other death certificates? If so  don't they have marriage deatails on them.
please give us more to work on  You  do  obviously  have a  bit more information to relay to us.

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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 May 07 01:27 BST (UK) »
Hi aus_kate, not sure if you have found the death of Elizabeth Jones yet. Don't have any BMD cds but have the death inquest cd, there is a inquest into the death of Elizabeth Jones in 1892
Age: 63 Place: Beechworth, Cause: Phthisis, Occupation: Lunatic someone else might be able to look on the death index.     Donna
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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 May 07 03:12 BST (UK) »
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Hi aus_kate, not sure if you have found the death of Elizabeth Jones yet. Don't have any BMD cds but have the death inquest cd, there is a inquest into the death of Elizabeth Jones in 1892
Age: 63 Place: Beechworth, Cause: Phthisis, Occupation: Lunatic someone else might be able to look on the death index. 


Parents are unknown on the index  - about the same time there is a John Jones of a similar age and a Julia Jones (around 30ish) dying in the same place.   Usually the death certificates are filled out by a Constable who attends the inquest, often they do not bother to put details on - one gets vague things like 'married, particulars unknown'.   The actual inquest documentation may give further information, or the hospital and burial  records.

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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 May 07 09:03 BST (UK) »
Don't forget to also look on Rootsweb Worldconnect where all Teakle/Jones details  you have told us -and more- is available for viewing.It has all been contributed to the site by interested researchers such as yourself.
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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #15 on: Monday 28 May 07 10:10 BST (UK) »
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Occupation: Lunatic


now this bothers me awfully  is  that what it says  oh how sad is that

I wonder what the prerequisites for the job were?

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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 12 April 11 06:47 BST (UK) »
Hello
In reply to this old post

I finally got the death certificate for the Elizabeth Jones mentioned who died in 1892 Beechworth.

The reason I got it was because the age could have fitted and could not find any other death that matched.

The death cert stated married, no husbands name given  and no other details unfortunately re children.

So now will have to get the coroners report but it still may not eliminate her.

I was concerned it didnt have children mentioned but it is possible she was estranged from her children

Kate

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Re: Elizabeth Jones (Teakle) death look up please
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 12 April 11 08:35 BST (UK) »
PROV has casebooks online for Beechworth Asylum.

http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/publications/documents/07396-P1.asp

These two would cover the time that your Elizabeth was there
Unit 1, 21 Aug 1878 - 29 Mar 1892 (PDF file, 33.1 MB)
Unit 2, 29 Mar 1872 - 18 Jan 1904 (PDF file, 42.0 MB)

Unit 2 has a list of inmates in alphabetical order in the first few pages but I couldn't see an Elizabeth Jones.  Unfortunately, from what it says (if I have read correctly) the first lot are not indexed at all.  They are big files and take a while to down-load so I didn't go any further.  I think you'll need a free afternoon and a cup of tea and a biscuit or two to go through them. :P

The one or two I looked at are quite detailed and do have information about family etc.  As Christine said, in an earlier post, death certificates for people in institutions can be very limited when the informants don't have much information.

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