Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?

[Shazza 51]

Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help me. I'm trying to find out info on my mother in law's real father. All she know is his name was John Batty and he was an apprentice to his father as a waterman on the London docks. He was born in 1912, so therefore as they were not allowed to do this until they were 14 it would have been some time after 1921. She thinks he was from Yorkshire and lived in Twickenham. I've been trying to find out for her but just not having any luck. Thank you

Hello, I have just read your post, I am the Granddaughter of John William Battie who was born 07, 01, 1912 he worked as a waterman and Lighterman, and was an apprentice to his Father also.
Did you find out any more about your Mother in Law's father?
I know it has been just over 2 years since you posted on this forum but am hopeful that you read this message.
Thank you

[BRUCE PARRY]

Hi Sue,
apologies for piggybacking,but if you"re still doing lookups for the Thames,could you provide info on a small family in Wandsworth,who were Watermen for several generations during the 1700's, surname WHANSLAW but may be spelt Wenslaw,Wanslaw .
      cheers  !!   Bruce Parry

[jonnyboy]

Hello Sue,

Hope I've posted this request correctly (new user)?

Do you have records of any watermen by the surname Masterman?

Kind thanks,

Jonny

[nelly22]

For shazza51 - I have found out some details about john william battie, born 1912.  are you still about on this site?

[Janelle]

Hi
So many questions i hope someone could help,
back in 2008 you posted a load of Tuckey waterman.  I am researching William Tuckey born in london in 1802 approx and listed in the 1841 census and in baptism records for his children as a waterman or lighterman.

in your original list one william tuckey didn't finish his apprenticeship so am i right in supposing that he wouldn't have had the right to call himself a waterman in census returns?

also the william tuckey who it might be was apprenticed in 1812 when he would have been 10 - 11 years would that be correct?
is there anywhere that the apprenticeship agreements can be looked at?
Thanks to all the fellow genealogists out there ...
jayg

And these are my OH's adoptive father's family. My latest discovery made today 

Waterman of Shadwell,

Not to mention his filesmith of Sheffield!!!!
And Fishmonger of st clement danes
Who morphs into Optician of Manchester 

outdoes my sergemaker of Clayhidon or
yeoman of Cutcombe

But not my maltster of huish champhflower
for cool

Salute,
Janelle

PS
Sue thank you for providing these replies. And jayg for asking the question 
I hope there is lots to find from the Guildhall because I'm a'comin

[GemLou]

Hi all.
I'm hoping that someone here can help. I'm trying to find out about my Great Grandfather and his parents. He was a lighterman from 1907 & was born in 1891. His name was Albert John Harris.

I saw 'shades' had posted about a Richard Harris & would be interested to find out if there was a ancestral link.

Thanks.

[Ozgm37]

Hi Sue, or any others,
I am researching a Henry Moss who, at the age of 50, left England in 1856 to set up a successful lighterage business in Melbourne, Australia.  I am interested if he was registered as a waterman/lighterman on the Thames in the period 1821-1855.  He had a father, John Moss, who we believe was also a lighterman.
Henry was born in 1807 and departed for Australia in January 1856.

Henry, we believe, ran a lighterage business on the Thames near Swan Lane, London with an office in 101 OR 106 Upper Thames Street, with 2 partners until 1843, aged 37,  when their partnership was dissolved. Their business name listing:  Moss, Leman & Bryan, wharfingers & shipping agents to all parts of Yorkshire & Lancashire, Commercial wharf & Old Swan pier, 101 Upper Thames street.

I also understand that there were quite a few lightermen/watermen with the surname of Moss.
Thank you in anticipation.

[jomcd967]

Hi Ozgm37,

There appears to be quite a bit of information about your Henry on the following link..
https://www.upperbeaconsfieldhistory.org.au//g0/p73.htm#i2184

Jo 

[SUET51]

Hello,
I hope I'm posting on the correct section. I'm trying to find my 3xggf Henry Mansfield who is on the 1841 census as a lighterman in Lambeth. There is also a James Mansfield and Charles listed as lightermen in the same street on the same census. Is it possible to find an apprentice binding record for Henry and possibly the name of his father or date of birth please? I believe he may have been born about 1806.
Many thanks