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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #144 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 08:31 GMT (UK) »
   suzey68  Many thanks for your help.  The last Goss is definitely part of the family but I notice a Pickering in there and that is a 1900 connection . It might just be a common Thames-side name.  This one was Lillian and she married Fred's brother Francis.  There is possibly a Pickering-Yorkshire connection. Have a very happy new year! Love B.

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« Reply #145 on: Sunday 04 January 09 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Dear Sue

I hope you don't mind me asking, but could you have a look and see if you can find my gr.grandfather please.

The only info. I have is from my grandfather's marriage cert. where he states his father as William Welch, Lighterman.  Relatives seem to think the family are from the Camberwell/Bermondsey areas.  A long shot I know, but any help would greatly appreciated.

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Sandie
Lewis & Davies in Glam.
Richards & Roberts,  in Carmarthen & Glam.
Bowen & Morgans in Carm.
Walters & Mort in Glam.
Dinmore, in SE London (prev.Surrey & Kent), Lowestoft & Yorks.
Collier/Collyer, Tyler & Welch in SE London(prev.Surrey)

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« Reply #146 on: Friday 09 January 09 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue,I have a whole family of Lightermen to beg you to look up for me if you feel so inclined.They are all "Briant"surnames and all born lived and worked out of Wapping, starting with Isaac b.c1775,his 2 sons George Back b.1798,and Frederick b.1801,
Fredericks 2 sons Edward Sancho b.1832 & Frederick Thomas b.1826,and Edward Sancho´s 6 sons, George Edward b.1860,Edward James b.1864,Frederick b.1865,Charles b.´68, Henry b.´74 and William b.´77.
Huge thanks in advance if you have the time.
Briant,Weston,Waterhouse,Sargent,Hickling

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #147 on: Friday 09 January 09 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ella-Louise

Sorry for delay but still working on your Thompson family.
Hopefully get them done this weekend.

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Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #148 on: Friday 09 January 09 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Funky Phantom

Sorry no Thurbin in my data base.

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Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #149 on: Friday 09 January 09 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandie

Could you please tell me when your gr grandfather (William Welch) was born or the marriage year of your grandfather so it will give me a starting point.

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Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #150 on: Saturday 10 January 09 15:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue

Sorry, I didn't think!

I'm afraid info. about my 'Welch' family is very sparse.  The only thing I know for sure is that my grandfather married in Dec. 1907.  I can't even confirm birth year, but he gives his age as 25 on the marriage cert.

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Sandie
Lewis & Davies in Glam.
Richards & Roberts,  in Carmarthen & Glam.
Bowen & Morgans in Carm.
Walters & Mort in Glam.
Dinmore, in SE London (prev.Surrey & Kent), Lowestoft & Yorks.
Collier/Collyer, Tyler & Welch in SE London(prev.Surrey)

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #151 on: Saturday 10 January 09 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue,I posted this before in the wrong place,so here it is again,
I have a whole family of Lightermen to beg you to look up for me if you can.They are all "Briant"surnames and all born lived and worked out of Wapping, starting with Isaac b.c1770,his 2 sons George Back Briant b.1798,and Frederick b.1801,
Fredericks 2 sons Edward Sancho Briant b.1832 & Frederick Thomas b.1826,and Edward Sancho´s 6 sons, George Edward b.1860,Edward James b.1864,Frederick b.1865,Charles b.´68, Henry b.´74 and William b.´77.
Huge thanks in advance if you have the time.
Briant,Weston,Waterhouse,Sargent,Hickling

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« Reply #152 on: Sunday 11 January 09 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandie19
Here are all the Briant I could find.

Charles Briant bound 08/08/1712 at Lambeth to Gillbert Jones freedom 25/09/1719
William Briant bound 04/04/1712 at Greenwich to Jno Harris did not finiah 00/00/0000
Charles Purchas (SIC) bound 06/01/1720 at Christ Church to Richard Briant# did not finish 00/00/0000
Thomas Briant bound 23/08/1764 at St Saviours to Edward Taffts did not finish 00/00/0000
William Briant bound 31/10/1760 at Bermondsey to John Sigsworth freedom 08/09/1769
Frederick Briant bound 20/11/1817 at Hermitage to John Watts freedom 31/03/1825
George Back Briant bound 23/01/1812 at Hermitage to Isaac Briant freedom 08/01/1824
Jno William Briant bound 25/06/1801 at Smithfield ** to Isaac Briant freedom 08/06/1815
Michael Pass bound 05/10/1809 343 at Wapping St to Isaac Briant freedom 13/03/1817
Edward Sancho Briant bound 12/10/1848 at Wapping to William George Newman freedom 13/12/1855
Frederick Thomas Briant bound 11/08/1842 at St George-East to Frederick Briant# freedom 10/04/1851
Isaac Briant bound 10/01/1856 at Wapping to Edward Sancho Briant freedom 14/07/1863
William george Newman bound 14/04/1836 at Wapping to George Back Briant freedom 13/08/1846
John William Peterson bound 15/09/1825 at St Katherines to Frederick Briant did not finish 00/00/0000
Thomas Frederick Smale bound 13/05/1847 at Wapping to George Back Briant freedom 14/12/1854
Edward James Briant bound 13/03/1877 at Shadwell to Edward Sancho Briant freedom 13/03/1883
Frederick Briant bound 13/03/1883 at Shadwell to Edward Sancho Briant freedom 10/04/1888
Frederick William Briant bound 09/02/1875 at Poplar to Fred'k Thomas Briant freedom 08/04/1884
George Edward Briant bound 13/07/1875 at Shadwell to Edward Sancho Briant freedom 14/12/1880
William Connor bound 14/11/1871 at Wapping to Isaac Briant freedom 09/01/1877
Alexander John Henderson bound 10/08/1869 at Wapping to Edward Sancho Briant did not finish 00/00/0000
Charles Briant bound 1885 NOV 10 at Shadwell to Edward Sancho Briant freedom 1890 DEC 9
Frederick William Briant bound 1906 DEC 11 at Shadwell to Frederick Briant freedom 1914 MAR 12
George Edward S Briant bound 1904 APR 12 at Limehouse to George Edward Briant freedom 1911 APR 27
Henry Briant bound 1889 APR 9 at Shadwell to George Edward Briant freedom 1894 MAY 8
William Briant bound 1891 JUN 9 at Poplar to Fred'k William Briant did not finish ---- --- --
Arthur Victor Briant bound 1917 OCT 11-Born 1900 APR 15 at Limehouse
Frederick John Briant bound 1937 MAR 16-Born 1921 FEB 16 at West Ham
Frederick William Briant bound 1906 DEC 11-Born 1888 JUL 30 at Shadwell
George Edward Sancho Briant bound 1904 APR 12-Born 1889 JAN 8 at Shadwell, Wapping
George Edward Sancho Briant bound 1915 APR 15-Born 1897 DEC 24 at Ratcliff
George Edward Sancho Briant bound 1918 MAY 14-Born 1903 JUN 17 at Mile End Old Town
Henry Horace Briant bound 1933 MAY 16-Born 1917 AUG 2 at Mile End Old Town
Henry William Briant bound 1926 MAY 11-Born 1909 MAR 22 at West Ham
Melbourne Briant bound 1931 FEB 10-Born 1912 APR 20 at Mile End Old Town
Walter Leonard Briant bound 1936 JUL 14-Born 1920 JAN 30 at Mile End
William Henry Robert Briant bound 1948 MAR 9-Born 1929 FEB 12 at Dagenham
William Henry Roberts Briant bound 1915 SEP 9-Born 1900 FEB 10 at Bromley

The Company Of Watermen & Lightermen Of The River Thames Admissions List For Pensioners 1794-1837
Isaac Briant Admitted 1833 FEB 19 From Hermitage

The Company Of Watermen & Lightermen Of The River Thames Reassignments 1688-1908
Frederick Thomas Briant bound 1842 AUG 11 Reassigned 1843 JUL 13 to George Back Briant
William Luke Bryant bound 1853 JUN 9 Reassigned 1858 AUG 12 to George Back Briant
Benjamin Craft bound 1719 SEP 11 Reassigned 1720 SEP 23 to Anthony Briant
Thomas Kirk bound 1796 OCT 20 Reassigned 1802 APR 1 to William Briant
Benjamin Lawson bound 1820 JUN 1 Reassigned 1824 JAN 8 to Isaac Briant
Henry John Wells bound 1850 NOV 14 Reassigned 1855 APR 12 to Fred'k Thomas Briant

Regards Sue
Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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