Thank you so much for the information - wonder who George Cripps is? From what you say he must have been somehow related. Interestingly Frederick married Nov 4th 1811 in St Lukes Middlesex - a church which neither party had any connection with, Maybe because he shouldn't have been marrying at all

Jan 
Reply to Janan.
Hi Jan,
this thread is going back a bit (quite a bit, in fact!) Feb 2007 to one of your posts.
I have an ancestor George Cripps as a waterman master. He was master to his son, also George, about 1819.
I think the same George (snr) did his apprenticeship in 1788, which would mean he could have been born about 1762ish so he could have been the same George CRIPPS that was master for your Frederick GROOMBRIDGE.
If anyone else has any waterman apprentice binding info for the surname CRIPPS I would be most grateful as I am trying to find their Free Watermen licence numbers.
Trevor