Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?

[freya]

Hi Sue, is it possible that you may be able to do a CD lookup for Watermen (two) with the same name - Thomas Hoare or Hoar. I do not think either had/used a middle initial in their names although I think that one may have been Thomas C Hoare. I know that both were listed as Watermen in the 1861 census and I believe that the younger (born about 1843) was the youngest ever Thames National Coat and Badge winner in 1861 (Although I have seen a listing of the winners of the Doggetts C & B and Hoare does not appear). The elder (the father) was born about 1822.

I would be grateful for any help.
Freya

[percy57]

Hi
Does anyone know why  some apprenticed to the Company of Lightermen and Watermen would also be in the Apprenticeship Listings for the Company of Vintners? I am descended from two families of Clerks and eventually Masters of both Companys and they appear to have flitted Apprenticeship between the both. Which I find really odd..aside from the theory of nepotism of course!
Hope someone can clear this up for me
Thank you

[Peter Bathe]

Hi
I've just found this thread - well, I only started looking for it after find a Waterman in the family!

Suzey68 - you seem to be an angel doing all those look-ups! Any chance of look-up for me, please?

Job Jones born about 1771 died 1850, lived (in 1841) in White Hart Yard, St Martin in the Fields

Many thanks

[Mary B]

Hello Suzey.
Is it possible that you would do a look up in the Watermen and Lighter-men apprentices for the surname of Phillips.

Mary-B

[suzey68]

Hi Freya

Here are all Thomas Hoar/es which could be yours.
Thomas Hoare bound 10/09/1857 at St.Martins F'ld to Richard Piner freedom 13/09/1864
Thomas Tranter Hoare bound 10/04/1845 at Greenwich to George Henry Smith freedom 22/12/1859
William Hill Hoare bound 14/02/1865 at Hammersmith to Thomas Hoare did not finish 00/00/0000

There are alot more Hoar/e so if you need them I will try and get them done before Christmas.

Regards Sue

[suzey68]

Hi siegebatteries

There are alot of Jones so I have only done the Job Jones'.
Job Jones bound 17/04/1783 at St.Saviours to  John Moring freedom 14/04/1791
Thomas Edward Jones bound 19/09/1822 at St.Martins F'ld to Job Jones freedom 12/11/1829
Charles Jones bound 09/03/1843 at St.Martins F'ld to Job Jones Jnr.# did not finish 00/00/0000
Frederick William Jones bound 12/01/1837 at St.Clement Danes to Job Jones Jnr. freedom 11/07/1844
Job Jones bound 18/08/1825 at Lambeth to William Dent Snr freedom 11/07/1833

The Company Of Watermen & Lightermen Of The River Thames Admissions List For Pensioners 1794-1837

Job Jones Admitted 1832 OCT 2 From Hungerford

The Company Of Watermen & Lightermen Of The River Thames Reassignments 1688-1908

James Salisbury James bound 1803 OCT 13 Reassigned 1805 JUL 18 To Job Jones
Job Jones bound 1825 AUG 18 Reassigned 1828 AUG 10 To Job Jones Snr.

If you need any other Jones let me know (name, place and year).

Regards Sue

[Peter Bathe]

Many many thanks for this, Sue

I might need more, but there seems so much in what you have given me it will take a little while to join all the dots.


Thanks again

Peter

[suzey68]

Hi Mary

There are alot of Phillips listed could you narrow it down for me please (name, year and place).

Regards Sue

[suzey68]

Dear all

If anybody needs Watermen and Lightermen binding research please ask but what with Christmas and New Year coming up I may not reply straight away.

So sorry for any delay.

Regards Sue