Help with Family name - HACKNEY

[carol8353]

Silver,

You say that Caroline died in March 1943- do you have that death cert?
I really would like it to say wife or widow of xxx Chadwick 

Richard- in answer to your question- no thanks 

Maybe she didn't actually marry but was just known as Chadwick(deed poll?)or could that have been her maiden name,and she just reverted back to it perhaps?

I'm not convinced on the 'Akney connection- surely she'd have to have been born under the sound of bow bells  for it to be misheard like that?

When you say that the obit mentions her daughters Silver- can you list them please,maybe we could narrow down dates of her changes of surnames by tracking the girls down in the indexes.

Still thinking.......

Carol

[sillgen]

I too have been looking for Caroline, Olive etc without success.   Searching all the Carol* in the 1891 census does not bring up any possibilities other than the Akney one.   A few more details from the obit would be really helpful as Carol says.
Andrea

[Richard Knott]

I'm not convinced on the 'Akney connection- surely she'd have to have been born under the sound of bow bells  for it to be misheard like that?

Carol

Even if it isn't the right person, we know that Caroline Hakney in freebmd appears as Caroline Akney on the 1891 census, so it is a variant. My feeling is that Caroline Akney/Hakney/Hackney is the person we want, but I'm willing to be proved wrong! The most recent website listed above has the Caroline b1883 dying in 1943 but it may, of course, have jumped to the wrong conclusions as well.

Richard

[silver1]

Wow, I'm even more confused, but if you experts are struggling , it makes me feel a bit better, I was beginning to think I was really stupid, that I couldn't find anything. By the way thanks for your time, its good of you.
Anyway ,the memoriam from the newspaper"

CHADWICK -Loving memories of dear mother and grannie.CARRIE died March 21,1943 - Daughters and grandchildren. George(R.N) Jack(R.N) Jean and Barry,Eric.

CHADWICK - Caroline died March 21st 1943 from Olive,Jim,Peter,Robert,Anne,Mary
I hope this sheds more light on this, I cant see anything apart from Olive, but maybe thats because thats the only name I can remember being mentioned by the family.

Would her being nicknamed CARRIE as in the memoriam make a difference? 

[silver1]

Also just had an email from a long lost relative in Australia, (I sent a letter to an old old address as a long shot)
My grandma Elsie (nee Booth) it turns out her brother Charlie had different surnames because they had different fathers. I am waiting for more info, she is Charlies wife (aged 84). Maybe she will end some of this mystery, maybe also of Joseph. Hopefully.

[carol8353]

Wow, I'm even more confused, but if you experts are struggling

We're not experts Silver- just maybe been doing it a bit longer than you and know a few more tricks,or mistranscriptions than you  

So no mention of a hubby then...not even Carrie Chadwick -nee anything........oh blow!

I don't think the Carrie as oposed to Caroline means anything- the obit is written by a member of the family and they will use the name she was known by- the death cert itself SHOULD have her correct name- although again that's not always the case.

I'm stumped as to what to look for next- leave it with me I might get some more inspiration whilst I'm hoovering  

Carol

[lizdb]

I think the best move is to get the death cert for Caroline Chadwick.
Hopefully this may mention previous nems, whether she was wife/widow of X Chadwick, and interesting to see who registered it, may give insight on one of the other rellies.

[silver1]

OK , I will apply for that, see what that turns up,
I will let you know when it comes.Thanks

[silver1]

Not really Hackney. But Elsie Booth, my grandma and Josephs wife.
Had some information from Australia:- Elsies mother was EDITH BOOTH  who after having  Elsie she  married JOSEPH HENRY HEATON and they had one son CHARLES ROBERT HEATON (B 25.01.21) that is the mystery of 2 names with 2 siblings. (josph henry brought her up as his own)
EDITH BOOTH had two brothers Arthur (who marries Mary) and Fred (who marries Lizzie)
JOSEPH HENRY had brother Harold
CHARLES ROBERT married Nellie Peacock.
This information is from Nellie aged 84.
I have looked  and looked and I cant find any of them, dont know what I am doing wrong??   
Even took advantage of 3 free days census viewing on Ancestry,