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Look up request Sydna JONES
« on: Sunday 06 May 07 19:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

i have found an old photo in a family album of a gravestone but i cant find either person in the census

could anyone help please, as i think they may be linked to my tree


on the stone its says translated

SYDNA JONES
PENBRYN FACTORY
DIED DEC 4TH 1885
AGED 78

ALSO SON WILLIAM B WILLIAMS
GLAN Y DDOL
JAN 17 1894
AGED 30

my family are from caernarvonshire area, I have tried Penbryn Factory in Google but again drawn a blank any help appreciated

thanks Pam
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Re: Look up request Sydna JONES
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 May 07 20:37 BST (UK) »
Not sure if "Sydna" is male or female?? Female judging by other entries.

Using a birth date of 1807 (1885-78) and assuming they were born in Caernarvonshire  you may have for 1881:

Jane Sidney Jones, head, 74, widow, Clynog, Caer'von.
Sarah Jones, servant , 25, Llandinorwic, Caer'von

Ref: RG11/5570/30/16

Something a bit strange about both birth dates. If Sydna is a woman she would have been 57 when William B was born!

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Re: Look up request Sydna JONES
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 May 07 20:59 BST (UK) »
Going back to 1851, the only Sydna Jones is aged 34 (1817) unless she's fibbing!!

Ref:HO107/2514/232/1.

Sorry, run out of time for the complete census. Will pick it up later unless someone else does it

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Re: Look up request Sydna JONES
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 May 07 11:03 BST (UK) »
If you look for William B Williams in 1891, the closest is a slate quarryman from Bangor who was born in 1864.

Following him back, you don't come across anyone called "Sydna Jones" who's son he could be.

I'll stop there unless there is more info about this pair.


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Re: Look up request Sydna JONES
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 May 07 11:43 BST (UK) »
thank you for looking Merc

My gr grandmother was called Sydney Williams nee ??  born Llanllyfni in 1873 do you think William B williams is a brother or in law as the dates are about right? and Sydna Jones could be her mother, I thought her mother was called Jane but its not confirmed,

Sydney married a William Williams who was born c 1870 in caernarvon area dont know anything more about him,

not sure if this is enough for you to do anymore with!! heres hoping

thanks Pam
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Re: Look up request Sydna JONES
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 May 07 11:57 BST (UK) »
There is a William B Williams showing on the 1871 Census born in Llanbeblig in 1871,the son of Thomas and Catherine Williams.

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
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Re: Look up request Sydna JONES
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 May 07 14:05 BST (UK) »
Try this:
1881

Benjamin Williams, 39, Quarry Labourer, Treflys
Laura, 38, Clynnwg??
William 18 (1863!) Clynnwg
Jane 17, Clynnwg
Robert, 11, Llanllyfni
Sydney, 5, Llanyllffni

2, Glanyddol (!)  Terrace, Llanyllffni

Ref: RG11/5563/15/4

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Re: Look up request Sydna JONES
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 May 07 14:10 BST (UK) »
Sydney Kate Williams married William Hwfa (??) Williams Q2, 1906, Carnarvon (sic),

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Re: Look up request Sydna JONES
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 May 07 14:24 BST (UK) »
Heres the parents marriage(Going from 1881 census Merc found it all fits )
Benjamin Williams to Laura Jones in Qtr Sept 1862 vol 11b Page 606 in Caernarvon

Tracing Laura back to 1851 this sheds some light on it
Clynnog,Caernarvonshire
H0107 Piece 2515 Folio 31 Page 12
Sydney Jones,Widow,38,Pauper,Ag Labs Widow,Ca????.Caernarvonshire
Laura Jones,Dau,9,Llanllyfni,Caer
Jane Jones.Dau,7,Llanllyfni,Caer.

So William is buried with his Grandmother.And William is your Gr Grandmothers brother .

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