ARMSTRONGS of Ravensden

[DarrenH]

Hi All,

Sorry for joining this thread so late; I'm a newbie to RootsChat. Both Wendy and John have been in contact with me through GR so I figured it would be easier to just join in here. Phew, I didn't realise quite how long this thread would be till I got here!

Firstly, many thanks from me to all three of you for all your research.

Secondly, it would seem sensible to alert those people on GR who are known to have the erroneous William of Ravensden <-> Thomas/Phoebe of Upper Gravenhurst link. Unless anyone has already done so, I'll volunteer.

Kind Regards,
Darren.

[johnP-bedford]

Hello Darren,  & welcome to Rootschat- glad you find it usefull

Now you're on here , please raise your own topics on the relevant board  & see what response you get.

regards John

[judiplant]

Thanks for alerting me about this thread, JohnP.

Like Darren I am amazed at the amount of research that has been done on this subject and thank you.

I'm another one who has Phoebe Wisson and Thomas Armstrong as the parents of William b. 1792, taken from the IGI.  However, I also have the information of their son William being buried Aug.7, 1797, and didn't update my genesr tree.  (oops)

William b. 1792 and Ann Gammons/Wrench were my ggggrandparents. 

I'm now going to read all the replies again - there is so much information to digest!!!!

Judi (Armstrong)

[wdurham]

Hi, Judi -

How do you descend from William and Ann?

I am pretty certain we have established that William WAS Ravensden born - there is no proof by way of a baptism, but the circumstantial evidence is just about overwhelming.

And if he was Ravensden born, then he is the son of John and Sarah - there just weren't any others around to be his parents!

The IGI batch has no other Armstrongs. The 1803 Muster Roll shows only one Armstrong (though this might not be conclusive, as others might have refused?). The 1831 population count shows only one Armstrong, i.e. John Junior. And 1841 shows only one Armstrong family - John Junior and his second wife Eleanor. Poor Jane was long gone....

I would be happier if I could discover the origins of Thomas and Phoebe. They may have been married in Upper Gravenhurst, but there is no evidence that either of them were baptised there. So where did they come from? I have drawn a complete blank with both of them.

Come to that, where did John Senior in Ravensden come from at about the same time?

Still, I guess it would be no fun if it were easy.....

[johnP-bedford]

Hello Judi.  Welcome to this Armstrong thread. Hope you find information useful. As we all now realise, the Thomas A & Phoebe Wisson link to William A of Ravensden in all probabilty is incorrect. There was a William A of Upper Gravenshurst but I think he got buried there in 1807.

Best regards John 

PS. Hello Wendy
PPS. David says hello
PPPS - I'm actually with him at the moment

[judiplant]

I'm descended from William's (1792) son Eli, Eli's son William, William's son Frederick, Frederick's son Douglas - then me!

I know this is getting a bit modern for what we're all looking for, but do you think that William b. 1820 was the son of William 1792 and brother of Eli?  He's buried in the same row as Eli in the graveyard at St. Peter's in Thurleigh, along with Eli's wife Mary Ann, and William's granddaughter Jinnie.  (the only 4 Armstrong's with decipherable headstones that I could find there).

Right John, 1807 - don't know where I got 1797 from.

Back to my reading now.

Judi

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi Judi

The William b c1820 who appeared in the 1841 census was found by John in Wilden parish register as being the son of William's first marriage to Elizabeth Franklin

Wilden baptisms, children of William & Elizabeth Armstrong
  Sarah 26 Oct 1817
  John 19 May 1822
  William 18 May 1822
  Elizabeth 17 Oct 1824 

He is therefore half brother to Eli

Regards

David

[judiplant]

Thanks, David

[wdurham]

Good morning, everyone!

Thanks, judi, for the graveyard information. Every little helps...