Le Patourel

[CatOne]

This could be Francis Lilly in 1881 on board a ship off Kent, England?

RG11/879 Folio 52 Page 1
"Agenoria" North Aylesford, Kent
Frank Leally 20 OS Guernsey

OS = Ordinary Seaman

[CatOne]

Harriett (Joseph's mum) in 1901 -

RG13/5320 Folio 53 Page 10
48 Glatney Esplanade, St Peter Port, Guernsey
John Help 24 Carter Vale Guernsey
Harriet 25 St Peter Port
Jack 2 St Peter Port
Lena 18m St Peter Port
Ivy 3m St Peter Port

(they had 3 rooms in this building, her parents had 2 rooms, also other families living there)

[CatOne]

Thanks for your pms, if you post any queries here, then if I can't find what you're looking for, the other rootschatters will probably be able to help you. (press "reply" at the bottom of this message and a box will come up that you can type your message in)

Did you want Isabel Le Gallez finding on the censuses too? Do you have her marriage certificate showing her age/fathers name?

Good luck with your research
Catherine 

[SimoneLe]

Hi Catherine.
I don't have any info on Isabel except that she was b/a 23/1/1902 and married Joseph on 19/9/1918.

As you have said that John was used instead of Jean what other names were used for Joseph? and James? and Pierre? I know that Betsy was used for Elizabeth.

On the 1871 census these kids were from Elizabeth's first marriage to a Lilly.
Maybe the nieghbour was her mother but i have her last name spelled as Hamon but that may be the wrong spelling.
I don't have a Quer or anything the like..now this is really starting to puzzle me.

I do know that Joseph was illegitimate to Harriet Rachel. I'm starting to wonder if maybe John (jean) was too?
I was told that John (Jean) father was called Pierre but no dates which make it hard and since the were no census before it's like looking for a needle.

Maybe someelse knows more?

Talk soon Simone.

[john le patourel]

Hi. I'm deperate for ANY information on any Le Patourel's most from Guernsey.
But especially of a James Alfred Le Patourel b/a 1920 d 11/3/1979 married Edith May Duport and of James father Joseph Eli Le Patourel (illegitimate) b/a 1/2/1894 married Isabel Alexander Florence May Le Gallez 1918, Joseph's mother is Harriet Rachel Le Patourel b/a 25/02/1876 (we seem to think that HER father was the father of her child Joseph) Harriet married john Edward Help later.

Sorry for so long a post but i hope someone can help as i'm stuck in the corner.

Thanks Simone

  Hi i am the son of the late James alfred le patourel Joseph joseph was illegitmate hes mum was harriet. he lived with hes grandad john who was also called jean we will never now the farther of joseph hes mum harriet did not supply hes farthers name. i have a lot of more info if you require it maybe if i had your adress i could send you all the info that i have. from john le patourel

[john le patourel]

hi i am john le patourel son of the late james . joseph mother was harriet she never supplied the farthers name of joseph so he was illegitimate. he was brought up by hes grandfarther harriet farther. whos name was john he was also called jean le patourel he married  elizabeth betsy hamon who came from the island of sark. harriet latter married john edward help but john help dident except joseph so he lived with hes grand farther jean le patourel. harriet & john help went on to have 10 children. i have more info could do with your adress send the lot to you

[SimoneLe]

To all that read this post.I have since been given new information and realize that the afore mentioned fathering of Joseph Le Patourel buy his grandfather Jean Le Patourel was not intirely correct.
I apologize if this has offended any readers as it was not my intention to discredit or disrespect any persons living or past.