Issacher TRUDGIAN/TRUDGEON

[Elliebob]

Hello everyone
Thanks for all the fabulous information.  I am having a bit of a rethink with my Trudgian tree as I have discovered a mistake.  All the family is the same, but my grandson's line has a wrong connection.  I will get back to this when I have sorted out the errors!  Meanwhile does anyone have any information on Agnes Fox who married John Honey Trudgian.  I have their marriage but can't find a birth for her.  According to the census she was born in St Mewan (St Austell) in 1848 and married in Falmouth in 1867.  She died in St Austell in 1921. I am going to the Cornwall Record Office on Thursday so hopefully will get more info there.
Back drekkly (in Cornwall that is an unspecified time in the future!!)
Best wishes
Ellen

[krisesjoint]

Hi Ellen,

This will certainly give you something to get your teeth into at the records office. 

Thought you had me stumpted with this one. She just did not seem to exist at all until after marriage. I have been playing with her for hours.

In 1861 I found a Fanny FOX claiming birth in St Mewan aged 17 but she was all. (nothing for 1851 either)

Eventually I found them (well I think I Have) in 1851 as GRAIG 

HO107/1908 Folio 309 Page 5
St Mewan

CRAIG Frederick head 36 b Wadebridge Tin Miner
CRAIG Eliza wife 36 b St Ewe
CRAIG Thomas son 10 b St Ewe
CRAIG Mary dau 9 b St Ewe
CRAIG Fanny dau 8 b St Ewe
CRAIG Eliza dau 5 b St Ewe
CRAIG Agnes dau 2 b St Ewe
CRAIG Frederick Son 3 months b St Mewan

I go back to 1841 and look what I see

HO107/146/8 Folio 42 Page 14
Little Polgooth
St Ewe

FOX Frederick 25 Y T. Miner
Eliza 25 Y
Elizabeth Jenkin 5 Y
Thos Allen 2 Y
Mary Gray/Grag 6 Months Y

there is no ditto for FOX for Eliza or these children (I thought the second names were Surnames but with Eliza having no ditto either they are probably all FOX - FreeCen has them transcribed as FOX)

Well given all this away I go to 1861 again and eventually I find 

RG9/1551 Folio 141 Page 13
Sticker
St Mewan

GRAGG Fredrick Head 47 b Wadebridge Miner
GRAGG Eliza Wife 46 b St Ewe Housekeeper
GRAGG Mary Dau 20 b St Ewe Bonet Maker
GRAGG Agness Dau 12 b St Ewe Scholar
GRAGG Fredrick Son 12 b St Mewan Scholar
GRAGG Harriet Dau 7 b St Mewan Scholar
GRAGG Catherine Dau 5 b St Mewan Scholar

Have Fun at the Records Office!

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

CREGG Agness born Dec 1/4 1848 St Austell 9 28

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Unbelievable!!!!

Again I thought the marriage unfindable, when would you believe I find yet another name.   

PEARCE Frederick Cragg = ALLEN Eliza 21 Nov 1835

It has to be them. Right time for a marriage to fit the 3 children in 1841 - There is the CRAGG again and we see ALLEN as a middle name in that census.

Wonder what on earth is going on. 

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Frederick is very consistant with a birth in Wadebridge about 1814/5

PEARSE Frederick baptised 19 Jan 1812 St Breock parents William and Mary

Bit earlier than I expected and no middle names but felt this likely when the icing on the cake.

William PEARCE = Mary CRAIG 9 Apr 1809 St Breock

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

and their first child

PEARCE Elizabeth Jenkin was baptised 28 Aug 1836 St Ewe parents Frederick Cragg and Eliza

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

another mix of names

CRAGE Frederick Pearce Mar 1/4 1851 St Austell 9 30

and maybe

PEARCE Elizabeth Creg was born Mar 1/4 1841 9 28 (One would think looking at the census that should be Mary)

PEARCE Elizabeth Jenkin Craig died Sep 1/4 1850 St Austell 9 14

Fredericks death looks like it is listed as

CREAGE Frederick Jun 1/4 1869 St Austell 5c 97 aged 54 years

Eliza and family are CRAGE in 1871 at Church Lane St Austell
RG10/2263 Folio 52 Page 4

Cheers Kris 

[Elliebob]

Thank you so much Kris that will really give me something to work on tomorrow as well as help my daughter with her in-laws family!  I don't think I would have found all that you did if I sat here until next week!!

Thanks again, Ellen

[watmea]

Ok Elliebob I know this has taken me time to get back to you but here we are:

Australian Trudgeons from Issacher

William Joseph born 1884 married Gertrude Booth and they lived in Scone NSW. He was a cabinet maker and undertaker.

Beatrice Grade born 12 April 1885 and lived all her life in Armidale except for a period at Gatwych and Dangarsleigh.  During 1890 at the age of 4 years and 6 months she was enrolled as a pupil of a brand new public primary school in Rusden Street, West Armidale.  She outlived that school which had stood for 76 years and was then replaced in 1966 by the Drummond Memorial School.  Beatrice was an honoured guest when the new building was opened being 81 years old and the oldest living ex-pupil of the West Armidale School.

The name Drummondd in NSW is synonymnous with education and no more so than in Armidale, long acclaimed as a city of schools colleges churches cathedrals and a university.  Hon D. Henry Drummond, Minister for Education was the leading light in establishing the Armidale Teachers College and the New England University.  Grace Watson said It was a great honour for a great man.  Mr Drummond had always been a close friend of my family.  He as done a lot for eduation especially in Armidale.

As Grace grew up under the influence of her father she developed a deep interest in many church activities. 

About the turn of the century a young man called William Watson became associated with the Watson family and for some time was given shelter in one of the barns on the Trudgeon property. William and Grace became close friends and on 27 September 1905 when Beatrice Grace was 20 years old they wer married in the Armidale Wesley Methodist Church.

More on the family to come.
Carolyn