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Offline GeoffB

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1861 Census Lookup Annie Bates
« on: Saturday 28 April 07 11:03 BST (UK) »
I have Annie Bates in the 1891 Hampshire census aged 37 born 1854 ish in  Tyfield? Essex.  Married to  Jesse Hall.

Is there such a place?  I see there is a Fyfield.....

If her family can be found in this census, she would be about 7.

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Geoff
Location: Yorkshire, East Riding, Hull. .....Names: Bull, Lee, Barnby
Location: Gloucestershire, Pebworth, Broad-Marston+ .......Names: Wells,Williams.
Location: Cornwall, Padstow area.....Names: Rouse, Chapman
Location: Co Galway....Names: Clancy, Joyce
Location: Hampshire  .....Names: Hall, Bates
Location: Co Fermanagh ..... Names Davis, Carson

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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Annie Bates
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 April 07 11:13 BST (UK) »
There is a Bates family in Fyfield (Ongar District) - but the daur Ann is 12 years old ...

RG9/1066; Folio: 71; Page: 10

do you want her followed thru 1871 etc ?
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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Annie Bates
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 April 07 11:16 BST (UK) »
1861
William J Bates 42 farmer 47 acres b Fyfield
Mary A 42 wife b Enfield Middex
Mary 14 dau b Fyfield
Ann 12 dau b ditto
Sarah 10 dau b ditto
Charlotte 8 b ditto
Samuel 6 b ditto
William 4 b ditto
Whitney Green Fyfield
RG9 1066 fol 71 p 10
There were no results for Annie Bates aged 6-9
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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Annie Bates
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 April 07 11:20 BST (UK) »
She's in service in 1871 in Paddington .... cant see her in 1881 - nor Jesse at 1st pass .....

you may have to obtain the Marriage Cert ?
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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Annie Bates
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 April 07 11:30 BST (UK) »
By 1901, Annie has died - Jesse is a Gardener in Abbots Langley, Herts - daughter Alice is with him....

so sadly we dont get another chance to see her PoB...

RG13/1323; Folio: 81; Page: 27 - Abbots Langley, Watford, Herts

Daughter Millicent is a scholar in Kensington

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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Annie Bates
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 April 07 11:39 BST (UK) »
If this is Annie neé Bates, then age at death matches the 1861 and 1871 Census .... Watford links to the 1901 finding..

Deaths Dec 1899 
 
Hall  Annie  50  Watford  V3a P415
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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Annie Bates
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 April 07 02:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks Newfy and Isobelruss!

I'm surprised at how the information just floods in! Thank you for your effort.
So working back:

1901 Husband Jesse Hall widower, and daughter Alice at Henton Hampshire, and Daughter Millicent is a scholar in Kensington. Son Herbert possibly in the Navy.

1899 Dec, Deaths, Annie Hall, 50 Watford (confirms 1861 reference, B 1849)

The 1891 Hampshire census should read Ann aged 42, born Fyfield Essex.
(and 1887 onward, children born in Feldbridge Rd, East Grinstead, Sussex)

Marriage between1871 and 1886 say. Age and location unknown.
1881 census falls in this period. no record? aged 32, and Jesse 29

1871 Ann was in service in Paddington, 22, so unmarried (are there any further details on location/employer?
1871, Jesse was u/m 19 private, 67 regiment Hampshire Hinton.

1861  Ann(ie) aged 12 B Fyfield, living at Whitney Green, Fyfield. Jesse aged 9 in Warnford, Alresford.

It would be good to pin down their location/s and any of their parents in 1881 which may indicate where to look for the marriage.  Could you spare the time to cast about for them?  Some of the family were in Hemel Hempstead at some point... Even if there's nothing further found, you have helped a great deal already, thanks again!

Regards

Geoff
Location: Yorkshire, East Riding, Hull. .....Names: Bull, Lee, Barnby
Location: Gloucestershire, Pebworth, Broad-Marston+ .......Names: Wells,Williams.
Location: Cornwall, Padstow area.....Names: Rouse, Chapman
Location: Co Galway....Names: Clancy, Joyce
Location: Hampshire  .....Names: Hall, Bates
Location: Co Fermanagh ..... Names Davis, Carson

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Re: 1861 Census Lookup Annie Bates
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 May 07 02:02 BST (UK) »
Marriage from FreeBMD
Jesse HALL and Annie BATES, Sep qtr 1885, Godstone, 2a 299.

Godstone is in Surrey.

Try looking for them in Surrey somewhere in 1881.

Ian C
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