Burial Records Edinburgh - lookup please

[JenClark]

Ah, Roxburgh a hotpot of Rutherfords! Like the address though, "crooked house" 

I'll check out the burial site, thanks

Jenny

[maidmarianoops]

this is a will
 
this will not make a lot of sense
but i have the full info if any of these match
it was too long to type all
sylvia


thomas rutherfurd
charles ruthefurd [monks cross]
land belonging to hospital of farrington
deceased john rutherford [aug 1834]
robert rutherford of farrington Baron of the empire of russia John rutherford edgeston
eldest lawfull son of the deceased John Rutherford of Edgerston his brother and mrs eleanor elliot his spouse marriage of
Robert Rutherford, and Mary Ann Leslie,
daughter of alexander leslie general in army
captain john rutherford
thomas rutherford
walter rutherford new jersey
i now know much more about scotland

[JenClark]

Hi Sylvia,

Glad you are enjoying learning about the Scots, it has been a bit learning curve for me too!

I am not sure that the folks you found are connected to me but I am intruigued by the mention of Elenor Elliot (spouse) is that the spouse of Robert or John??

My folks left Scotland in 1832 so before this will (which I assume is 1834) and went to New York not New Jersey, but I am chasing a James Rutherford and Nelly/Helen Elliot so Elenor Elliot is very close.

Will e-mail I think 

Jenny

[maidmarianoops]

Helena  thats what took my attention


and to John Rutherfurd, Esq. of Edgerston his nephew eldest lawfull son of the deceased John Rutherford of Edgerston his brother and Mrs Eleanor Elliot his spouse

your guess is as good as mine
sylvia

[JenClark]

Have PM'd you, as I think this needs further digging into

Jenny

[RicMc]

Hi Jenny. Are you still on the hunt for Robert Rutherford? As this is a very old thread, you may not be. Anyway, I have a theory to share. Regards Richard

[broomfm]

Hello all,

I am currently researching James Rutherford (son of Elizabeth Sutherland) and have seen mention of his father being either Robert or George Rutherford (I haven't properly verified or seen evidence towards either claim) but came across this thread on my search for more info. I'd be very grateful if any of you have come across any more information on James' parents that you'd be able to share!

Frankie

[RicMc]

Hi Frankie.

Your question is quite old, so not sure if you'll see this, or maybe you've resolved in the meantime. The death certificate for James states his father was George Rutherford a butcher. If the father of James is a brother of Thomas, which I think is likely, then Thomas' brother George (1799 - 1862) is less likely to be the father because he's married and having children with his wife in Roxburghshire from 1827 through 1839

However, there is evidence that Thomas had a brother Robert and there is a Robert Rutherford - a flesher, i.e. a butcher - who dies in Edinburgh in 1847 aged 42. This Robert marries in 1839 in Melrose, and is living in Edinburgh by 1841 with his wife and a 10 year old William, presumably a son from a previous marriage. There is a Robert Rutherford, a ploughman, who has a son William with Elizabeth Staward in St Boswells, Roxburghshire, in 1830.

A number of children of James Rutherford & Helen/Nelly Elliot are known to be living in St Boswells from 1818 through to 1829: Mary marries Thomas Paton and lives there until at least 1829, George's first child is recorded in the parish baptism register in 1826, Ann marries George Knox in 1822 and dies there in 1827. It's plausible that their brother Robert would also be living in St Boswells at that time.

If Robert the ploughman and Robert the flesher are the same person, then there is a gap in his history between 1831 and 1839, so he could have travelled to Caithness with Thomas etc.

Quite a bit of surmising, but putting it out there for others to think about and add to or refute.

Cheers
Richard

[JenClark]

Hey Richard,

Sorry, for some reason I did not see the replies on this thread, but I did see your personal message and have replied to that this morning 

I too have found the information about Robert Rutherford the flesher/butcher who died in 1847 in Edinburgh, and believe that he may be the father of my ancestor James Rutherford.

A piece of evidence that suggests this might be the case is that Robert's death in Edinbugh was published in the newspaper in Caithness see below:

“DEATHS: At No. 2, Romilly Place, Tobago Street, Edinburgh on the 22nd ultimo, Mr Robert Rutherford, aged 41.” - John o’ Groat Journal, Friday 31 December 1847

I believe this indicates that he had relatives in Caithness, or was welll known in Caithness, otherwise why would his death be reported there?

In 1847 Elizabeth Sutherland was living in Berriedale, Latheron parish, Caithness with his reputed son the then 10yr old James Rutherford. Thomas Rutherford and his wife Jane Sutherland were also living in Olrig, Caithness in the 1840s, though by 1851 they had relocated to West Kilbride in Ayrshire.

Interested to hear your thoughts

Jenny