Burial Records Edinburgh - lookup please

[JenClark]

Hello,

This is a bit of a last ditch effort I must admit, but I was hoping someone would have access to or be able to search burial records for Edinburgh.

I am trying to locate a Robert Rutherford who was born in Roxburghshire to James and Helen/Nelly Elliot possibly around the late 1790's early 1800's. According to family legend he died in Edinburgh 

I have his reputed son's marriage cert in 1863 and he is listed as desceased, his son was born in 1837......so somewhere between 1837 and 1863 I have lost him 

Most of his family left to settle in New York in 1832 but at least 2 of his brothers stayed in Scotland, one (Thomas Rutherford) dying in Ayr in 1879 and one (George Rutherford) dying in Minto, Roxburghshire in 1862.

Any help would be appreciated...he has turned into a real brick wall!

Jenny

[maidmarianoops]

hello
are you sure of the parents name
i keep coming up with

1789 17 Januarry Birth
Born in hawick roxburghshire scotland

1814 8 April Aged 25
Marriage Jean Waldie
Hawick Roxburghshire,Scotland

1838 4 August  49
Died in hawick roxburghshire


james son born 1833 in hathwick
died 1838 


sylvia
i will check further for you                           "

[JenClark]

Hi Sylvia,

Thanks for looking. My James Rutherford was born abt 1837 in Latheron, Caithness to Elizabeth Sutherland and reputedly Robert Rutherford (farmer). His brother Thomas Rutherford bap 1798 in Birdhope Craig, Northumberland to James Rutherford and Nelly/Helen Elliot married Elizabeth's sister Jane Sutherland in 1820 in Latheron where he had come to work as a shepherd.

There are no other Rutherford's in Caithness except my James and Thomas and Jane's family in the 1841 census, and I have been in contact with a descendant of this couple recently who reports a great aunt of hers wrote down most of the family history some time ago and has the following children for James and Nelly:

Ann Rutherford bap 1791 Birdhope Craig
Mary Rutherford bap 1793 Birdhope Craig
John Rutherford bap 1794 Birdhope Craig
Thomas Rutherford bap 1798 Birdhope Craig
George Rutherford bap 1799 Jedburgh, Rox
Andrew Hugan Rutherford bap 1801 Jedburgh, Rox
Adam Rutherford b abt 1802
James Rutherford b abt 1805
Robert Rutherford
Alexander Rutherford
William Rutherford b abt 1813
Henry Rutherford b abt 1818

James and Nelly and most of their family (including daughter Mary and her husband Thomas Patton, sons Henry, William, James, Andrew H, George and John) ended up in the USA. I have details of their census returns in the US and burials etc.

George returned to Scotland and died there in 1862, Thomas stayed in Scotland and died in 1879, I have no record of Ann, Alexander or Adam as yet and the only info I have on Robert is that he apparently died in Edinburgh 

I am thinking that when the family left for the US in 1832 that my Robert went to stay with his brother who was at this stage settled in Caithness, had an illigitimate son there, and then moved back down to Edinburgh at some stage where he died??

It is a bit of a muddle, but we are starting to get somewhere, it is just a pain that I cannot find baptisms for the later children!

Jenny

[maidmarianoops]

1841 census scotland
James Rutherford 4 
Betty Sutherland 30 
Catharine Sutherland 65 
Janet Sutherland 25 
John Sutherland 70 
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scotland
1851 census
Berriedale, Caithness  
 38  parish no
Latheron  
 Caithness  
 Newport  
 Scholar  James Rutherford 14 
Catharine Sutherland 75 
Elizabeth Sutherland 40 
John Sutherland 4 
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1841 census

Roxburghshire Scotland
  parish Sprouston  
 Roxburghshire  
 Crookedhouse  
Parish  807



Agnes Rutherford 1 
Cathrine Rutherford 8 
George Rutherford 14 
Isabella Rutherford 6 
James Rutherford 45 
James Rutherford 3 
Janet Rutherford 40                     
Janet Rutherford 4 
Joan Rutherford 10 
John Rutherford 12 
Robert Rutherford 16 
Thomas Rutherford 1
 
from oops

[JenClark]

Hi Sylvia,

Yep the first two are my chappy in Latheron with his mother and grandparents

Where is the third census from?

Jenny

[maidmarianoops]

hi jen
the info was scotland
the 1841 census has a lot of rutherfords.
are you in australia'
 i can send my email address[in code of course]
i have paid membership to ancestry.com uk
sylvia


I dont think this is one of yours but i loved the wifes name

 James Rutherford 
 1847  Ireland
 1872  Brooklyn  USA
wife  Fannie Dickey

[JenClark]

Hi Sylvia,

I figured it was Scotland 

But where in Scotland? Is it Caithness like the other two. Cause Rutherford is a very common name in the Borders and down south but not so up north, in fact there are very few.

Like the wife's name too, but definately not mine 

I am in Scotland at the moment (on working holiday) but thanks for the offer anyway.

Jenny

[maidmarianoops]

jen i have modified the message with the list of names and put details on.
well you are in a good place to research.
sylvia

[maidmarianoops]

http://www.graven-images.org.uk/

graves in scotland site
sylvia