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MAINWARING - NASH Connection
« on: Tuesday 24 April 07 05:20 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am Still looking for a Mainwaring-Nash connection.

My Grandmother was Jemima Mainwaring Nash, born in Vic in1888. Mainwaring, was supposedly a family name, like Bance which was added as a middle name down the family line.  Though, I can find no Mainwaring connection.   
               
Jemima's parents were both born in Wales.
John Bance Nash B:1837 and wife Jane Jeffreys B: 1847. Jane's parents (both Welsh)were Ann Prosser B: 1827 and died age 40 and and Jeffrey Jeffreys, B:1820 in Wales but died in Vic.
John's parents were Gowan Richard Nash B:1795, from Wales and Isabella Bance B: 1795 whom along with her family hailed from Kent in England

 Some of both the Nash and Jeffreys families came out to Victoria around the 1850's.

 Recently, I have read that sometimes with illegitimate children, The middle name given was really the fathers surname.

I am wondering if there is anyway to be able to trace this.

regards


S.k.
cavenagh-mainwaring, Briggs, Pulford, Launders, Nash

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Re: Mainwaring- Nash
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 06:35 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
What state you looking at there for this
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Re: Mainwaring- Nash
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 06:53 BST (UK) »
Dear Crazy

The connection I am looking for recedes from in the State of Victoria, from Jemima Mainwaring Nash.  The Family connection supposedly ends up in staffordshire England.

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s.k.
cavenagh-mainwaring, Briggs, Pulford, Launders, Nash

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Re: Mainwaring- Nash
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 08:38 BST (UK) »
Hi all

So people don't double up on information, I'm linking the original topic.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228630.0.html

Cheers


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Re: Mainwaring- Nash
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 09:43 BST (UK) »
Hi s.k.

What family history leads you to believe your family are connected to Mainwaring in Staffordshire?

Jemima's parents were both born in Wales. John Bance NASH & Jane JEFFREYS

Grandparents on fathers side
Gowen Richard NASH was born in Haverfordwest Pembrokeshire Wales
Isabella BANCE was born in Rochester Kent

Grandparents on mothers side
Jeffrey JEFFREYS died aged 53 at Melbourne Hospital 1884 reg: 13083 (father: William Mother: unknown)
Ann PROSSER was born Breconshire Wales died 1867 aged 40 reg: 10122 (Father: Thomas PROSSER Mother: Jane WILLIAMS)

Jeffrey JEFFREYS & Anne PROSSER married Brecknock Wales March Qtr 1846 Ref: Vol 26 Page 395.

The 1st child born in Victoria was Thomas Prosser JEFFRIES born Collingwood 1852 Reg: 11436
the last child Walter JEFFREYS born 1866 in Collingwood Reg: 7652

Jeffrey JEFFREYS mother could have been a MAINWARING, I have not been able to find the family on the 1841 census.

Regards


Genni



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Re: Mainwaring- Nash
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 April 07 00:11 BST (UK) »
Dear Genni

thanks for the extra information.

The idea of the Mainwaring family connection came for my Grandmother. I have been following  the scrapes of her information. Surprisingly, no matter how fantastic they sound they, so far have born out.


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S.K.
cavenagh-mainwaring, Briggs, Pulford, Launders, Nash

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Re: Mainwaring- Nash
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 June 07 20:24 BST (UK) »
Dear s.k.
You are looking for Mainwaring-Nash.
I am descended from the Nash line, also Mainwaring, and can possibly  help you
Isabella Bance, b 1797, married Gawen Richard Nash, b 1794, at Bristol.
Gawen's sister was Julia Maria Nash who married Lieut Edward Jenkins R.N. at Clifton,Bristol
in 1818.  Lt Jenkins was drowned at sea when his ship, the 'Frolic' was wrecked off the South Wales coast in 1831 (extensively reported in the 'Times') Mrs Jenkins (Julia) was left with 8 children, one of whom, George went to the Bluecoat school in Newgate Street,London, and from whom I am descended.
Julia Maria Nash was the daughter of Thomas Nash of Bristol, a merchant, but as yet I do not know his wife's surname, she was also called Julia Maria
Thomas died in 1829 at Bath.  His brother was Gawen Richard Nash, b 1743 at Walberton, West Sussex who died unmarried.   Another brother was Edward.
These three brothers were sons of  Richard Nash (b 1694)who married Jemima Mainwaring (b 1710)
Jemima was the daughter of Edward Mainwaring (b 1681) of Whitmoor and Jemima Pye( b 1683) of Faringdon,  Oxfordshire.
Both the Mainwarings and Pyes can trace their ancestry back to the Norman Conquest.
The Nashes were extensive landowners in West Sussex; Gawen Nash, Richard's father, married Isabella Pye who was Jemima's sister.    This was therefore a 'cousin'marriage. This Gawen b 1668
was a London Goldsmith but is later described as a 'merchant'.  He made a large gift of silver plate to the church at Walberton which is now kept in Chichester Cathedral.
I can trace the Nashes back to about 1554.
All this is part of a large pedigree which I have constructed showing the inter-relationship of the Nash, Mainwaring and Pye families.     I was interested to learn about the Australian descendants.

G.T.


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Re: Mainwaring- Nash
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 June 07 06:36 BST (UK) »
G.T.,

How very fortunate for s.k. that you have replied to her post!  Obviously you have a wealth of information.

Genni has referred above to one other relevant thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228630.0.html

Another on the specific topic of MAINWARING-NASH is:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228828.0.html

You mention that you are interested to learn about the Australian descendants.  There are many threads about these - RootsChatters have kindly provided a great deal of information about s.k.'s family in Victoria (and also Tasmania).  The following thread might be a good place to start as it gives links to most of the other relevant threads:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,230319.0.html

s.k.,

It is certainly your lucky day!

Incidentally, if you go back to your original post on this thread and click on the 'modify' button, you will be able to edit out the long area of blank space.

JAP

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Re: Mainwaring- Nash
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 June 07 08:06 BST (UK) »
...  Julia Maria Nash was the daughter of Thomas Nash of Bristol, a merchant, but as yet I do not know his wife's surname, she was also called Julia Maria  ...

The IGI has an LDS submission (unfortunately not an extracted entry) which indicates that Thomas NASH married Julia Maria PHILLIPS, 12 Jun 1790, Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales.

However, that surname of PHILLIPS is supported by the death record in Victoria Australia of their son which was posted on:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228828.0.html
Quote from: Valda
NASH, Gowan Richard
Father:Thomas
Mother:Phillips Julia
Age at Death:82
Birthplace:Pemb
Reg Year:   1876 Reg State:Victoria

The following death record from Victoria, Australia was posted on:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228630.0.html
Quote from: gennig
Gaven Richard NASH died Bairnsdale 1906 aged 73 Reg: 11530 Parents: Gawen Richard NASH & Isabella BANCE

This seems likely to be the Gawen R NASH mentioned on:
http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/byaduk/
as having been Head Teacher for a time of the Byaduk North state school in SW Victoria.

JAP
PS: Thanks Kris for doing the edit  :)