Lewis/Bowcott family

[Mev]

Hi Oliviv

Thank you so much. I have split the list and the following are all connected to a John Bowcott

Marriage   29 May 1823   John Bowcott   Anne Jones   Maesmynis   PR says John Bowcott of Alltmawr. Wit by Thomas Bowcott
Baptism   22 Apr 1824   Jane   d/o           John Bowcott &   Anne           Alltmawr
Baptism   1 Feb 1826   Richard s/o   John Bowcott &   Anne    Alltmawr
Baptism   16 Jan 1831   Mary d/o      John Bowcott &   Mary           Alltmawr
Baptism   19 May 1833   Margaret d/o   John Bowcott &   Anne     Alltmawr
Baptism   23 Aug 1837   John s/o       John Bowcott &   Anne    Alltmawr
Baptism   28 Jun 1835   Eliza   d/o           John Bowcott &   Anne    Alltmawr
Baptism   23 Oct 1840   Thomas s/o   John Bowcott &   Anne    Alltmawr
Baptism   6 Apr 1740   Benjamin s/o   John Bowcot              Llandefailogfach
Baptism   19 May 1743   Joan d/o       John Bowcot              Llandefailogfach
Baptism   10 Aug 1746   Elizabeth d/o   John Bowcatt              Llandefailogfach
Baptism   3 Apr 1748   Elizabeth d/o   John Bowcot              Llandefailogfach
Baptism   4 Feb 1749   Ann   d/o           John Bowcot              Llandefailogfach
Burial   17 Apr 1749   Elizabeth d/o   John Bowcott              Llandefailogfach
Baptism   21 May 1749   John s/o       John Bowcott              Llandefailogfach
Baptism   18 Jul 1749   John s/o       John Bowcot              Llandefailogfach
Baptism   29 May 1763   John   s/o           John Bolcot              Llandefailogfach

There is no further information on these entries in the Parish Register so any we can match up will be a bonus.

Thanks
Mev

[oliviv]

God's Truth what a list - I have lived in the Parish of Llandefaelog Fach since I retired from work and although I am interested in social history I have never heard of a Bowcott ever being mentioned or written about for this area - admittedly they are going back about 250 years.
 I will now have a look at the Family Tree but I am not being very hopeful of having a result - perhaps one of these days I can go and have a look at the local Church Records
Best Wishes
Oliviv
PS My computer skills are not what they should be - are my messages fairly legible

[oliviv]

Hello Mev

There is no luck on the Llandefaelog Bowcots as I suspected so I am going to concentrate on John Bowcott but most probably you already have the information and I must emphasise that it is only my interpretation of the tree which is not very clear.
John Bowcott born 2nd. March 1794 @ Alltmawr son of Richard Bowott (1763 - 1836)(I have a list of John's siblings but am not going to mention them unless you want to know)
John Married 29 May 1823 Ann Jones of Maemynis.
On the tree is list which I have interpretated as being the source of information:-
1841 Census Alltmawr
1851 Cendsus Llangenny, Crickhowell
1861 Census ?
1871 Census Llanfihangel Ystern Lewern, Mon
1812 Mentioned in g.fathers will
1816  - do - father's will
1858   - do brother Thomas's will
Died June 1875  aged 83
Wife Died Dec 1879
John and Ann Issue seam to be:-
Jane Bapt. 22 Mar 1824 Alltmawr 1841 Census Altmawr (15)
Richard 1 Feb 1826  - do -  (15)
Ann 5 Mar 1828   - do -   (13)
Mary Bp. 16 Jan 1831  - do -  (10) and 1851 Llangenny (20)
Margaret Bap 19 May 1833 - do - ( 1851 Llangenny (17)

All at Alltmawr
Margaret died June 1884 agee 48 - Monmouth
Source List with a No. which I don't understand may be age

There is a second group namely
Eliza Bap 28 June @ Alltmawr 1841 Census for Alltmawr (5)
1851 Llangenny (15)
John Bap 23 Aug 1837 Alltmawr 1841 Census Allmawr (3)
Thomas Bap. 23 Oct 1840 1841 Census 6 mths
1851 Census Llangenny (10) 1861 Census ?? Married by 1871 Census to Sarah 1871 Census  Monmouth 28
(The tree then appears to give their issue but ask if you want info (Continuing with Thos - 1881 Census Monmouth (38)
1891 Census  Mon. (48) Died a widower 23 Nov. 1912 @ The Warra, Raglan Mon
Catherine Bowcott born circa 1844\5 1851 Censu Llangenny (6)
William Bowcott born 20 Mar 1846  1851 Census Llangenny (5) 1871 Census Mon. (23) 1881 Census Mon (34) 1891 Census Mon (42)

I hope that this may be of some use

Best Wishes Oliviv
 

[Mev]

Hi Oliviv

Thank you for taking the time to look these up for me. I am wondering if maybe the Llandefailogfach Bowcotts are the descendants from the other Richard son of either William or John. I will fill in the info that you have given and then have another look through the list.
best wishes
Mev

[oliviv]

Hello Mev

Its me again - I noticed the following which may be of interest to you.

On the 5th November 1839  at Merthyr Cynog Church
Evan Jones, bachelor (Blacksmith) of Tynewydd, Upper Chapel, the son of John Jones, blacksmith married Jane Probert Spinster of Tymawr Upper Chapel the daughter of David Probert, Farmer.
Jane’s death is recorded on her father’s headstone at Ebenezer Chapel, Upper Chapel as follows:-
In Memory of David Probert of Tymawr in this Parish who died April 18 1854  also Jane wife of Evan Jones, Dowlais Ironworks who died Sept. 6th. 1849 aged 30 years.The headstones have been relocated for Health and Safety reasons but the above mentioned headstone was next to the one of Thomas Bowcott of Brynhilyn who died May 17 1833 aged 68 years

The 1851 Census for Tymawr has the following entries
 Jane Probert Head Wid. aged 70 farmer of 80 acres
David Probert, son unmarried aged 40
Jane Jones, grand daughter aged 11 Scholar born Merthyr Cynog Parish
William Jones, Grandson aged 9 born Dowlais Ironworks

The Probert family are still living in the area. In fact my  paternal aunt and a maternal aunt married two Proberts.

Hope you are keeping well
Best Wishes
Oliviv

[Mev]

Hi Oliviv
Thank you so much I will put the extra info in my tree.  Oddly enough I was about to ask you if you had a David Thomas Bulcot/Bowcott in your tree. I think he died about 1780 as I spotted a will for him which says he was from Merthyr Cynog.
I have been a bit busy of late so haven't had chance to do any more on my research but will get around to it as soon as I can. I am hoping to have a trip down to Ebenezer Chapel in the next couple of weeks.

Hope you are enjoying the summer
best wishes
Mev

[oliviv]

Hello Mev
No info today. Hope you enjoy your trip to Ebenezer. It is a bit difficult to find but I can give you more precise information if you would like it. About 100 yards past the Chapel there is a car park.
It would be nice to meet as you will probably be driving past  my front door but I don't know how to let you know where I live because I believe there are some regulations when using this website about giving personal details
Best Wishes
Oliviv 

[Genieflower]

Hi Oliviv
I have joined Rootsweb this minute, after accidentally coming across your posting of March 2007.  It refers to information found on a gravestone at Bethel Chapel, Llandefaelog, saying "to the memory of Selina wife of Thomas Davies, Tynwayn, the parish of Merthyr Cynog who died Feb 19th 1865 aged 32 years. Also in loving memory of the said Thomas Davies who died Oct 21st 1925 aged 95 years'
Yesterday I sent for the death certificate of the said Selina (her maiden name was Williams)
Wondering if you have a connection to this family, or answering a question for someone else.
Regards Genieflower

[Iago]

I have tonight seen your message to Oliviv - I have gone on to Broadband and have changed my email address and my new name is now Iago.
The information I gave in 2007 was in reply to an enquiry from "Davies family 1951" and I see it is still listed on RootsChat.
If you think I can give you any information please do not hesitate to ask.

Best Wishes
Iago