Lewis/Bowcott family

[Mev]

Whilst looking for more information on my Mary Bowcott (born 1811 Merthyr Cynog) who married David Davies (born 1811 Crickadarn) at Gwenddwr on 20 May 1836 I found a marriage for your Mary Bowcott to Lewis Lewis on 10 Jun 1828 at Dyffryn Honddu. It was a marriage by Licence and states that the Groom is from Llanbeder in the County of Carnarvon (sic).
My Mary Davies (nee Bowcott) is buried at Crickadarn and her dob is calculated from her age at death inscribed on gravestone and from census, and on 3 census she gave her place of birth as Merthyr Cynog. I wonder if you have any information which may help me in my search. Possibly our 2 Marys were cousins.
Mev

[davidjkrichards]

Hi Mev,

Sorry I don''t have any more information other than that kindly provided by oliviv. It is very likely that our two Marys are linked. Your enquiry has reminded me that I wanted to get copies of any wills (I have been in and out of hospital for the last two years) so I will have a look in the National Library of Wales and see what I can find. If anything is of interest I will liet you know.

Dave

[Mev]

Thanks Dave and if I find anything relevant to your research I will let you know too.
Mev

[oliviv]

Re your Bowcott query

This is only information taken from a family tree which was given to me some years ago and it is a bit difficult to follow. However  if  it is relevant I may be able to contact the person who gave me the tree and ask his permission if you can contact him direct.
It would appear that  Mary Bowcott born circa 1790  Married 27th May 1813 @ Alltmawr to a Roger Davies  (who died 7th Dec. 1817 Aged 45 and they had issue Jennet Davies bapt. 17 June 1814; David bapt. 15 Nov. 1815; Mary bapt. 24 June 1817 - All at Beilibrith Merthyr Cynog and all mentioned in Grandfather’s (Richard Bowcott)  Will of 1836. This Mary was poss. dau of  Richard Bowcott of Merthyr Cynog
Mary Bowcott  (dau of Thomas Bowcott of Merthyr Cynog) married Lewis Lewis  Minister of the Gospel
Hope this may be of some help rather than a complication

[Mev]

Hi Oliviv
Thanks for the reply. I am waiting for a copy of the marriage from the Parish Register to come through which hopefully may give me Mary's father's name so will be able to check the info you have given with that. I know that she is buried at St Mary's Crickadarn and lived at Tycanol farm from 1851 to her death. Her 1st born son David Bowcott Davies & daughter Elizabeth are buried with John & Mary Morgans who lived at Tycanol on 1841 census. I am trying to establish whether Mary Morgans was David Davies' sister. I have ordered a copy of Mary Morgans' will which will hopefully provide some enlightenment on that front. I will come back to you when I have checked these out .
Many thanks for your help
Mev

[Mev]

Hi Oliviv

I have been studying the info re Mary Bowcott c1790 and don't think that could be a connection but thank you for your help. If I could impose on you again....  Do you have a William Bowcott gentleman of Vron, Gwenddwr on your tree. The 1841 census gives his age as 75 so born  c1766 and he died about 1847. The 1841 census also has Mary Bowcott age 55 so born c1786 and Thomas Bowcott age 25 so born c 1816. I think it is quite likely that these are my Mary's c1811 family.
Many thanks
Mev

[oliviv]

Re your Bowcott query
Yes there is a William (spelt Boolcotte) on the tree  who was baptised 25th March 1768 @ Merthyr Cynog; died 17th Feb 1848 @ Vron Gwenddwr (copy of Will) 1841 census @ this address. mentioned in father’s will 1812
He married on the 11th May 1808 @ Merthyr Cynog a Mary Davies who was the daughter of a Roger Davies who died 1829 and made a will 11th Jan. 1824. Farm Name - Noyadd, Llandewir’r Cwm, Builth Wells mentions daughter Mary wife of William Bowcott.
William & Mary had issue:-
1. Rev. William Bowcott born circ 1808/9 married Elizabeth Watkins daughter of Thomas Watkins Esq., of Fordfawr. Rev. Wm Bowcott was Rector of Llanfillo and is buried there. Memorial in Church
2. Mary Bowcott who married David Davies of Pentreffyntronnau, Cerrigcaran
(Source Father’s will of 1848)
3. Thomas Bowcott born circa 1813/4 married Jane ?
At the Vron on 1841 Census with parents and 1851 Census - do - married
Birth place - Llandewi’r Cwm - cross reference grandad Roger Davies
1861 and 1871 Census at Blaengwenddwr, Gwenddwr who had issue Mary Ann Bowcott who married William Thomas Griffiths (descendants still living in Gwenddwr Parish)
It woul appear that William Bollcotte bapt. 25.4.1768 was the son of a Richard Bowcott/Bolcott who was the son of either a William or a John Bollcot and grandson of Richard Bollcott who made a will @ Merthyr Cynog - 14th Jan. 1757; Will proved 20th May 1757 .

It gets a bit complicated  so I think it best if you ask th questions

Hope the info is of  some help

Best Wishes
OliViv

[Mev]

Hi Oliviv

Thank you so much. This is definately the right family. David & Mary Davies were recorded at Pentrefynnau on 1841 census.
My G Grandfather Samuel Evans lived with them. Think I will have to order copies of the wills. I will fill in what I can on my tree and get back to you again when I have it straight if that is ok. You truly are a godsend.
Best wishes
Mev

[Mev]

Hi Oliviv

From what you have said I have my William (c1768-1848) and Dave's Thomas (c1764-1833) as brothers - both sons of the same Richard & Mary (nee Jones). Did this Richard have any other children do you know either by Mary or Gwenllian. Is there any mention of whether Richard's cousin Richard had any children and were these 2 Richards the only known  grandchildren of Richard who died c1757. Sorry lots of questions.

I have found a marriage for Thomas c1813 to a Jane Jenkins Dec quarter 1847 . There was a Jane Jenkins living with the Bowcott's at Vron on 1841 census as a female servant.A possibility maybe.

best wishes

Mev