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Re: edwards - mills in presteigne
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 April 07 12:33 BST (UK) »
At least we know we have the right family.This is strange i have never come across this scenario he marries under Evans ,registers his children under Evans then changes the whole families name to Edwards?At least we think  he was illegitimate as his Father not mentioned on marriage cert or was there another reason for that?Will have a look around see what i can find.Its intriguing .

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Re: edwards - mills in presteigne
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 April 07 12:55 BST (UK) »
Have found this death cant find John in 1901 so its a possible due to the names and age
Qtr Jan 1894 John Edwards Evans age 52(Birth 1842)
vol 11b page 107 in Knighton.

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Re: edwards - mills in presteigne
« Reply #11 on: Monday 23 April 07 13:11 BST (UK) »
Problem we have is that we dont know if he was registered at birth as Evans or Edwards?
A possible in 1851
Clun,Shropshire
H0107 Piece 1953 Folio 133 Page 23
Elizabeth Edwards,Head,Widow,67,Domestic,
Montgomeryshire
John Edwards,Grandson,8,Clun,Salop.

And i cant find the above under Edwards in 1861?Think you need to go through Cluns Baptism records looking for an illegitimate John Evans or Edwards born around 1842.

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Re: edwards - mills in presteigne
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 07:51 BST (UK) »
Any idea where i will find clun baptism records or would i have to visit.John James Edwards married Annie Williams in llantarnam,monmouthshire april 1895,gives his father as John Edwards - a coachman - on the marriage certificate.Father not a witness on the certificate.

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Re: edwards - mills in presteigne
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 25 April 07 16:21 BST (UK) »
Yes you could pay a visit to Shropshire Archives to view Parish Records i always find Genuki site  a good reference to what each county has in their Archives.Also try Shropshire FHS or Google Clun Records sometimes you can purchase Parish Records on microfiche.I have not researched myself in Shropshire .So good luck
Im still dying to know about the name change let me know what you come up with
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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
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Re: edwards - mills in presteigne
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 25 April 07 17:23 BST (UK) »
Cheers Welsh Lady

Just got in from work,going straight back out,think it might be a good idea to post this one on the shropshire site in case anyone can help,I live and work in newport so getting to clun could be a problem,let u know if i find anything.
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Re: edwards - mills in presteigne
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 02 August 08 22:38 BST (UK) »
This is a bit off beam, but their visitor Susan Abel, born Presteigne, as per the 1851 census was a sister of my ancestor George.
George's family too went under various surnames- Abel, Roe and Vaughan, and few of the "marriages" in this line seem to be there to be found! George's son (?) Edward / John / Jack (my ancestor too) is found as Thomas, Roe and Abel; once he left the area he was always an Abel.

What a challenge trying to sort out these seemingly carefree border families! I still have no clue as to where the Roe name comes in.
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