edwards - mills in presteigne

[eddieshouse]

Can anyone help on this one.I found my great-grandfather born in Presteigne 1871.

John James Edwards - 1881 census - 6 albert square,presteigne
 
Father - John Edwards mother - frances ( i think nee mills)

In 1871 the same family seem to be in albert square but the surname is now evans.

John Edwards was born in clun according to later census.
Frances was born in presteigne
According to bmd index's children may have been christened evans.
I,m baffled as to why he may have gone from edwards to evans and back to edwards,any presteigne experts out there who may have a clue where to start.

Cheers
John

[welsh lady]

Hiya and Welcome to Rootschat.
This is a strange one firstly i thought maybe the family had been mistranscribed as Evans in 1871.However i then found what looks like all the childrens births on Free Bmd and indeed they are under Evans.
Also found this marriage
John Evans to Frances Ann Mills in Qtr March 1864 Vol 11b Page 234.Which again fits.
I did think maybe Frances remarried to a John Edwards and her children  took on the stepfathers name but cannot find a marriage .
Will see what else i can find.Maybe someone else will come up with some ideas

Welsh Lady

[welsh lady]

1851 Church Street,Presteigne,Radnorshire
H0107 Piece 2492 Folio 465 Page 21

William Mills,Head,35,Carpenter
Charlotte Mills,Wife,32
John Mills,Son,11
Frances Mills,Dau,8
Sarah Mills,Dau,6
William Mills.Son,2
Susan Abel,Visitor,22

All born Presteigne,Radnorshire

Welsh Lady

[eddieshouse]

Thanks for looking and your help.I have also had all the same thoughts,the latest i'm considering is i found a john edwards born in clun,living with his grandmother elizabeth in clun in 1851. I checked on his birth and he seems to have been born out of wedlock so could this have been him and in those days being born on these terms maybe he hid his real name for a while and moved on.His father was a thomas edwards and his mother a mary reynolds.Still,all guesswork and maybe the truth will never be available.

Cheers

[welsh lady]

There are also 2 John Evans born 1844 in Clun Shropshire one with parents Thomas and Jane the other with parents David and Mary.
What id do next if you havent already is send for the birth cert of one of John and Francess children this will give you mothers maiden name.To confirm she was Mills
Then send for John and Francess marriage cert to give us Fathers names and addresses and go from there.
Another guess is that Johns Mother remarried an Edwards and then John decided to change his name and his childrens names .But as you say we might never know but sending for the certs will give you more info to go on.

Welsh Lady

[eddieshouse]

I think that is the only chance i got now, will send for birth certificate for john james evans and see what road that takes me,thanks again for your help.

[welsh lady]

Post details  when you have it.Good Luck

Welsh Lady

[eddieshouse]

Welsh Lady

[eddieshouse]

Welsh Lady

Have received certificates.

John James Evans was born 16.11.1870 in presteigne.father was john evans of albert square,presteigne.mother was frances ann evans formerly mills so we have the right family.

John Evans married frances ann mills in presteigne 31.01.1864.frances ann mills was 21,a spinster,housemaid living in broad street,presteigne,father named as william mills a carpenter.Now the intrigue continues,john evans was 22,a bachelor,occupation looks like brewer living in hereford street,presteigne.column for fathers name and prefession has been crossed out,no name or mention of deceased or anything.

as i said earlier i have a certificate of a john edwards born 31.07.1841 in norbury,clun,salop to a thomas edwards and mary reynolds formerly lucas and i can't seem to find these people again.Think my brick wall just got higher.