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East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« on: Thursday 05 April 07 08:31 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help with a marriage look up for the parents of Ellen Cary MULLINS b 1832.
On 1841 census her mother is shown as Mary b1796, but no father.
As all events took place in East Pennard, hope they may have been married there too

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Re: East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 April 07 14:52 BST (UK) »
From IGI:

Ellen Cary Mullins
Christened 16 Feb 1831 East Pennard, Somerset
Father: Richard Mullins
Mother: Mary Cary

No sign of a marriage at East Pennard. Though there is the following:

Richard Mullins (born c1796, Ditcheat, Somerset) married Mary (c1799, Ditcheat) at Ditcheat in 1816.

If I've got my map reading correct, East Pennard and Ditcheat and are within 5 miles of each other south west of Shepton Mallet.

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Re: East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 April 07 15:09 BST (UK) »
To confuse you a bit more IGI has a Mary Cary, christened Jan 1797 East Pennard. Father William; mother Phillis.

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Re: East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 April 07 02:19 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much for your reply to my request.
It has answered more than one question.
Cary is used as a middle name for generations, can now see where it has come from. All the dates also match up with what I already have.
Much appreciated

RH Perth West Australia


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Re: East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 April 07 14:24 BST (UK) »
Hi, me again.
I am afraid that while Mary, the mother of Ellen Cary Mullins, was quite likely (from the name alone) Mary Cary, she was not the daughter of Phillis Vincent and William Cary (who are in my tree), as a (member-submitted) IGI entry which has been quoted would have us believe. Phillis and William Cary did have a daughter named Mary c.1797, but she never married and died in 1824. Here is her burial:
Name Mary CARY died 3 Jul 1824 aged 27 born – – – Memorial type Coped Stone notes Daughter of William and Phillis Reference 6972 Parish East Pennard, All Saints (Church of England)
Here are to the best of my knowledge the burials of the parents of Ellen Cary Mullins (at the same church):
Name Richard MULLINS Date 10 Mar 1838 Aged 46 Place East Pennard Description All Saints Denomination Anglican County code SOM
Name Mary MULLINS Date 29 Feb 1844 Aged 49 Place East Pennard Description All Saints Denomination Anglican County code SOM

I originally made the same mistake as the LDS member, but had to undo it when I found the burial of Mary Cary (d. William & Phillis). I also have a will of an unmarried brother of Phillis Vincent, Stephen, who was rich and unmarried (ideal for writing wills) and who mentioned in his will from 1834 all surviving nieces and nephews (including my 3x ggm, daughter of William Vincent and Anna Golledge of Ditcheat) and there is no mention of a niece Mary Mullins.

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Re: East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 April 07 04:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Peter,

You have obviously done some serious research !
Thanks again for replying with all the information.

Rachel

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Re: East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 December 11 20:06 GMT (UK) »
Peter you mention "Phillis Vincent and William Cary (who are in my tree)" - did they have a daughter Jane Cay, who married William Lovell?  If so, I have many of their descendants . .
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Re: East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 December 11 21:06 GMT (UK) »
I do have quite a bit on their daughter Jane Cary who married William Lovell on 30 Apr 1826. I have looked a bit further for some of their children and would appreciate it if you could have a quick look at the attached tree as the names of her grandchildren are mainly taken from my guesses based on census returns.

Below are my collected notes for Jane Cary (note the Anna Phillis Morris, a servant with Jane and her husband in 1861, is a daughter of my 3x great grandfather Henry Morris. Henry's wife Phillis Vincent was Jane Cary's first cousin).

Peter

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She ("Jane wife of William Lovell") received in 1836 a bequest of £150 from her uncle Stephen Vincent.

The 19 Aug 1837 will of her father made the following bequest:
I give my three Closes of pasture Land situated at Honey Stratton in the parish of Evercreech in the said County called Bullhams containing by estimation eleven acres and my close of pasture Land called Sidbury in the parish of Doulting in the said County or by whatever other name or names the said Closes or either of them have or hath heretofore been called or known unto and to the use of my Daughters Elizabeth the wife of John French and Jane the wife of William Lovell and their respective heirs and assigns share and share alike as Tenants in Common and not as Joint Tenants.
And I also give and bequeath unto each of them my said Daughters the sum of One hundred pounds

In 10 Jan 1839 in a Codicil to William's will the above bequests were revoked and replaced by:
And I do hereby give and devise the Close of Ground call'd Upper or Higher Bullhams containing by admeasurement four acres and my Close of Ground call'd Sidbury adjoining thereto unto my Son Edmund Cary and my Son in Law John Golledge ... to let the same ... and pay the Rent thereof from time to time ... into the proper hands of my said daughter Jane the wife of William Lovell for her own use ... And after her decease In trust to sell the same ... and divide the proceeds between all the children of my said Daughter Jane
And I give and bequeath unto my said Trustees and the Survivor of them and the heirs of such Survivor the Sum of One hundred pounds Upon trust to pay the Interest thereof into the hands of my said Daughter Jane for her own use during her natural life and after her decease to pay and apply the same and the Interest thereof Upon the same trusts and in the same manner as is directed with regard to my said Lands hereinbefore devised.
And I hereby declare and direct that the before mentioned devise and bequest shall be free from the debts and control of the husband of my said Daughter
(this must have been triggered by a falling out between William Cary and his son-in-law William Lovell)

In 1841 living at Week, Glastonbury, Somerset, age 32, with her husband William Lovall 35, Yeoman, children William 10, Ann 8, Samuel 4, John Cary 1, and two servants.

In 1851 living at 36 Tarringdon, St. Sepulchre, London, age 45, with her husband William Lovell 46, Tobacconist & Provision Agent, children Mary 23, Samuel 14, John 10 and Phillis 3, and a servant.

In 1861 living at 66 Snow Hill, St. Sepulchre, London, age 55, with her husband William Lovell 57, Cheese Factor, their children Samuel 24, John C. 20, Phillis C. 13, married daughter Ann Coles 28, granddaughter Jane C. Coles 2 and a servant Anna Phillis Morris 29.  Anna Phillis Morris is her first cousin, one time removed.

In 1871 living at St. Mary, Lambeth, a widow, age 65, Annuitant, with her daughter Ann Coles 37, and grand daughter Jane C. Coles 12.

In 1881 living at Green Hall, York Rd, Lambeth, Surrey, (says unmarried, but presumably widowed) age 75, with her son-in-law Josiah Christmas 55, Provision Merchant, daughter Mary C. 53, seven grandchildren, a clerk, and four servants.