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Re: Just out of curiosity
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 24 July 07 07:53 BST (UK) »
Not a Smith or a Jones amongst them yet (unless you count the surname JOHNS as a Jones) - mind you I still have my share of brickwalls and untraceables.  In fact sometimes the less common names are worse because there are so many different ways they could be spelt and/or transcribed.

I agree. Especially the strangely spelt/sounded ones.
Cole/Hayden - Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Higgins - Pembrokeshire, Wales
Popham - Bideford, Devonshire, England
Burness - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Troy - Ireland
Christie - Scotland
Campbell - Scotland
Ross - Scotland
Brand - Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Watson - Scotland
Rundmann - Taschendorf, Prussia, Germany
Schonfeldt - Prussia
Gurowski - Prussia
Martin - Cork, Ireland
Roberts - Yorkshire, England
Kemp - England

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Re: Just out of curiosity
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 24 July 07 08:04 BST (UK) »
3. My maternal grandfather's sister married John Smith 1907. Fortunately I had found the grandaughter of his other sister and she helped by telling me about the family, including a photograph!

4. My maternal grandmother's mother was Matilda Jones. I know very little about her, other than her father's name, on her marriage cert. and her place of birth, from censuses - Enniskillen!
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Clulo - Staffs.,Warwickshire, Lancs.1780 -1950
Fisher- Nafferton,Hull, Manchester.1770-1840-1950
Kane&McNeill,Forkhill, Armagh and Glasgow,Bray Dublin.1850s -1920
Boshell and Dowzard- Dublin, 1840s -1911
Kay/Bremner Edinburgh 1800 - 1841.Kay Staffs.& Lancs1842 -1901
Kay - Newcastle on Tyne 1780-1861
Swindell, Marple & Manchester 1900->
Makinson, M/c & Prestwich 1870 ->
Beacom/Jones - Enniskillen 1780 ->

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Re: Just out of curiosity
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 02 August 07 23:36 BST (UK) »
1)  1762 - man
2) 1890's  - woman
3) I am unlucky enough to have found Smiths on 2 sides of my family. Both families in London. Very difficult.  Smith family 1. earliest definite 1797.  Smith family 2. earliest definite 1776.  Lived not too far from each other but not related, so far.  Perhaps we all eventually go back to Smiths.
3) No Jones at all (yet) I don't think I could cope with those as well>

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London - Wichett, GRAN, Pelton,Allen,Heath,Webb,Hooker, BARHAM, Rimes, Smith, Player, Cheesman, Salmon, Strong
Hampshire - Coles, Bone
Suffolk - Webb, Gault
Carlisle - Strong, Donaldson, Bennett

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Re: Just out of curiosity
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 19:54 BST (UK) »
I found a Smith in my ancestry. I'm afraid it put me off trying to trace any further back for that particular person. However I did find her first husband and children!
Earliest ancestor Ive found was born in 1788. I'm a bit stuck on how to get any further!
I am researching the Cole family from Jarrow and South Shields and also the Traynor family-originally from Ireland-settled in Dundee and moved to Jarrow


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Re: Just out of curiosity
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 19 August 07 05:08 BST (UK) »
1. The earliest for me is a marriage cert. from the GRO, so I haven't seen the original paperwork.
Dated 1840 both bride and groom and two witnesses all signed.

2. I have a 1909 mariage cert. where one of the witnesses (Groom's Mum) signs with an X.

3. GGG grandmother Eliza Smith born in 1840, I'm not sure if you count her daughter, my GG grandmother also Eliza born before the marriage, I still haven't found her birth cert. so I don't know if she is a Smith or not.

4. may have a Jones at 4x great grandmother but haven't confirmed it yet.
Alworthy, Blake, Burt, Clulow, Cooper, Davies, Day, De Hove/Van Hove, Farrell, Groves, Jenkins, Johnson, Jupp, Lake, Nockles, Richardson, Sawyer, Smith, Stubbings, Williamson

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Re: Just out of curiosity
« Reply #32 on: Friday 05 October 07 12:35 BST (UK) »
Interesting questions.  I've just sat and gone through my overstuffed lever-arch folder full of certificates and documents for my ancestors and was surprised to discover very few x's marked on certificates since 1837, just a couple early on in the 1840s by ancestors who were in rural areas.  I'm wondering if this is because most of my family were in and around London and had more access to education - enough, at least, to sign their names.

I was pleased to note that both my 3xgreat-grandparents (who were both 'deaf and dumb from birth' according to census returns) signed their names on their marriage certificate in 1842.  I know that my 3xg-grandmother attended a deaf school (I have the school record) and suspect that's where she met my 3xg-grandfather (the school were unable to find a record for him, but the records are incomplete).

The earliest signature I have is on a copy of a will signed by my 5xg-grandfather who was born c.1719 and died in 1807. 

My earliest Jones is my grandmother, and I've been lucky to be able to trace her line back as far as my 3xg-grandfather born c.1801, with my earliest certificate being his marriage in 1841.  I remember when I phoned the GRO to order that particular certificate, the woman I spoke to on the phone was very impressed that I had managed to get that far on a Jones line, she actually said "well done"!  And, my g-grandfather Jones, his father and his father were all called Thomas just to make things nice and simple for me :D

I haven't yet found any Smiths in my tree.

Hicks of London, Whall of Stepney/Norwich, Jones of Stoke Newington/Aston on Clun, Wigzell of London, Hare of London, Cook of St Osyth, Finch of Essex, Judd(e) of Winterslow, Langford of Kimbolton/Knighton, Ward of Leominster, Evans of Kimbolton, Bartlett of Dorset, Sherstone/Shearstone of Marston Magna, Hare of London, Britain of Shoreditch/Birmingham, Webb of St Pancras, Genns (James), Braddy of London. Gurman, esp Noah!