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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #99 on: Saturday 08 October 11 12:55 BST (UK) »
My Capaldi Ancestors came over from Cassino in the late 1800's to the UK as Musicians.
Looking at records, they spent some time in Edinburgh where there trade seemed to be Confectioners and Restauraters, but in England and Ireland they were Musicians.
Majority of the Italians they were around were Musicians, such Families as:

Tedesco
Salera
Arpino
Caringi
Macari
Colacicco
Di Tommaso
Coletta
D'Agostino
Di Ciacca
Pacitto
Innelli
Risi
Pinchera
Ricci
Rotonda
Tartaglia
Tomasso
Velardo



Hi
I recognise several of the names you mention.  I quote from an earlier posting of mine on this thread which you may have seen: 

"As well as the well-known Italian communities in Holborn and Ancoats, there was a smaller 'Little Italy' in Hull from the 1880s.  It was situated in a compact area of tightly-packed terraces and courts known ironically as the 'West End' (it was a far cry from the more famous West End in London).  These streets were home to many of the Hull poor as well as Irish and Italian immigrants. 
My RISI ancestors came to the UK in early1880s from Cassino and were employed in the usual combination of ice-cream sellers/street musicians.  My great grandfather Lorenzo Antonio RISI first turned up in Glasgow in 1881, then in Leeds (1882), before settling in the 'West End' (Hull).  He later had workshops in North Street, Hull, in the heart of the Little Italy district, where he made ice cream and repaired and hired out street pianos with his son pasquale Antonio.  Pasquale later became a publican, managing the Royal Oak on Spencer St under the anglicised name of Tony RICE, where he employed my grandfather Vincenzo as barman. 

Another ice cream manufacturer in the West End of Hull was that of George Pontone based at 58 Spencer Street, Hull.  Trade directories of the early 1900s listed several Italian ice-cream businesses in the ‘West End’ area, including Laurence Rice (Risi), Frank Penna, Alfred Bacci, Charles Corodino, George Pontone and George Ladolcetta, all listed as ice-cream makers.

Lorenzo and his wife Geltruda (nee FUSCO) moved to Leeds/Bradford and then to Newcastle upon Tyne in the early 1900s; they died in Newcastle in 1927/1919. 

As I've posted on another thread Italy:Immigrants to UK - RISI family there is still a RISI ice-cream business making and selling ice cream in the city."

Do you have any connection with the Risi family?

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Paul   
Milsom in Wiltshire, Wakefield and Hull
Risi, Rice, Fusco, Tomasso from Cassino, Italy
Fewster, Williams, Hildyard, Egan
Jachimowitz, Kerstein from Suwalki, Poland

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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #100 on: Saturday 08 October 11 20:31 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Related very distantly and only through a couple of marriages!

My GGGrandmother's Sister married Salvatore Tomasso. Salvatores Mother's 2nd marriage was with Agostino Risi, born 1858 Cassino. He was a street Musician and later a Fruit Seller/Hawker.

Jamie

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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #101 on: Sunday 16 October 11 08:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Jamie
Was Salvatore anything to do with the Tomassos of Leeds?
Have you any more info on Agostino Risi?

Paul
Milsom in Wiltshire, Wakefield and Hull
Risi, Rice, Fusco, Tomasso from Cassino, Italy
Fewster, Williams, Hildyard, Egan
Jachimowitz, Kerstein from Suwalki, Poland

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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #102 on: Sunday 16 October 11 23:09 BST (UK) »
I do not know if he had connections with Leeds, but he had siblings called: Maria Carmela, Antonio, Caterina. His Father was Palmerino. I believe Palmerino had brothers called Domenico and Gaetano.

I will find out more on Agostino Risi.

Cheers!

Jamie


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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #103 on: Friday 28 October 11 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hello Paul,

Agostino Risi's Father was called Angelo!

Jamie

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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #104 on: Friday 28 October 11 21:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jamie.  I wonder if they were related to the Newcastle Risi family; an Angelo was a leading light of that branch.
Paul
Milsom in Wiltshire, Wakefield and Hull
Risi, Rice, Fusco, Tomasso from Cassino, Italy
Fewster, Williams, Hildyard, Egan
Jachimowitz, Kerstein from Suwalki, Poland

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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #105 on: Tuesday 08 November 11 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hello Paul, i will send you a private message to let you know my email. Turns out i have the same line as the Risi and Tomasso Families from Leeds and Newcastle, etc.

Cheers Jamie

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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #106 on: Saturday 21 January 12 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone
My grandfather was a Pasquale Tomasso from San Michele near Casino born 1884. He arrived UK early part of 20th century and was in Durham.  :) :)He had sisters, Caterina, Benedetta and Francesca, Caterina settled in England and became Mrs C Dent, the other two remained in Italy. His father was Francesco-Antonio and his mother Pasqua Dimambro daughter of Michele Dimambro born 1856.

Tomasso changed to Tomassi after WW1.

Does this tally with any Tomasso's that you may know of?

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Re: Ice cream sellers and street musicians
« Reply #107 on: Saturday 05 January 13 07:54 GMT (UK) »
My great grandfather was Frank Penna of Penna's Ice Cream.  (26 North St, Hull (Est 1896)).  He came from Catona, Italy with his wife, Josephine (from Sicilly) to Hull with their son Frank (and later had 4 more sons).  I'm currently trying to find their birth dates to track my family tree further back as well as ship records.

There was an article in the Hull Daily Mail, Wed May 8, 1996 to celebrate 100 years of Penna's Ice Cream.  Does anyone know if this paper is available online?

I have to say that this was website/forum was an amazing find!!  Believe it or not, I thought I'd make some ice cream today and was looking online for a good ice cream recipe!!!  Then I just thought I'd search for Penna's ice cream and found this!!!  Meant to be.  :)