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Offline wookietoo

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The Adams Family
« on: Saturday 31 March 07 13:57 BST (UK) »
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I'm hoping that somebody can help a poor muddled country bumpkin researcher.....

I'm stuck out here in Suffolk trying to solve a mystery.

I have Nathan Adams b c1811 in Battersea as a direct ancestor
He is on the 1851 census married to Mary Ann who was born in Paris
They have six children including Joseph who is 11 months, and Nathans mther Martha living with them.

I can't find them in the 1861 census at all

By 1871 he has a different wife - Jane born c1826 in St Dunston - and four children, only one of who appears to be one from 1851 - Joseph. One of these children is Sophia, who again is on my direct tree. As she is 18 on this census I really need to know whether she is a daughter of Mary Ann or Jane.

I can find no births marriages or deaths for the principal characters in this little drama, and would really appreciate any help that anybody here can offer. Frankly I don't know where to start !

Part of me would love Sophia to be the child of Mary Ann, as it looks possible that she could be a baby born from a trophy bride taken at Waterloo, which would be very romantic - but on the other hand it means my tree probably stops dead in France !!
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Re: The Adams Family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 March 07 14:09 BST (UK) »

1871 has four kids, does it?
Who, when & where for all, and we can try to  help.
All witholding already-obtained information does is frustrate efforts.

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Offline wookietoo

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Re: The Adams Family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 March 07 14:15 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I wasn't witholding, merely including what I thought was relevant - I didn't want to make the post too lengthy.

1871 shows Joseph 20 Sophia 18 Henry 16 Jane 14 all from various parts of South London
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Re: The Adams Family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 March 07 14:18 BST (UK) »
1871 - RG10/426; Folio: 14; Page: 21 - WhiteFriars...

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Re: The Adams Family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 March 07 14:18 BST (UK) »
1861 Nathan Is a Widower in Strand Union Workhouse aged 51 a Copper Plate Printer, Birth given as Lamberth Surrey

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Gaskell, Ormskirk, Upholland, Pemberton, Lancashire
Screeton/Screaton, Nottingham
Lomax Suffolk, Lancashire
Ghilks, Mansfield
Jones, Wales
Banham, Norwich
Rothwell, Lancashire
Tinks, Suffolk
Shepherd, Lancashire

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Re: The Adams Family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 March 07 14:18 BST (UK) »
Not much help but I see that 3 of the children from 1851 are together in 1861

1861
RG9/181 99 24
Liberty of the Rolls
7 Kingsbury Place
Alfred Adams, head, 22, printer, b. Westminster
Emily, sister, 18, b. Surrey Lambeth
Frederick, brother, 15, b. do.  
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Re: The Adams Family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 March 07 14:30 BST (UK) »
Now I really can't find little Joseph Samuel. He's 11 months in 1851 (born Clerkenwell) and 20 in 1871 (b. Westminster Mddx). Surely he must be somewhere in 1861 !!

I can't see a marriage for Nathan either - have you checked the complete index for marriage, Wookitoo?  :P
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Re: The Adams Family
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 March 07 14:32 BST (UK) »
So....am I reading this right ..... ?
Widower in 61 therefore all children in 1871 are over 10 so must either be from first marriage, or his second wife had been married before and the children took his name on the marriage ?
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Re: The Adams Family
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 March 07 14:34 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Tati on Saturday 31 March 07 14:30 BST (UK)
have you checked the complete index for marriage

Sorry, gonna show my ignorance here....what do you mean by complete ?
I've searched from all angles on ancestry.com..........
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