County Cork placename ? Help

[Dmartin]

Hi all,
 Could someone tell me if they know of the following location/links etc,
 
 Springmount  (lyre) Seat  Co Cork
 1m se of M'cllow
 3.5 m west of Ballincollig .

 This was written many years ago and the handwritng is difficult to decipher.
 
 Regards , dez .

[kintree]

dez

Can you specify the period of the handwriting ?

There was a big house Springmount, townland of Castleinch, parish of Athnowen. The house was just west of the village of Ovens, which would indeed place it some 4 miles west of Ballincollig, and about 1 mile SE of Mullaghroe House, townland of Mullaghroe.

Spring Mount, Athnowen, was occupied in 1837 by S McCarthy Esq (Lewis, A Topographical Dictionary of Ireland).

Any good ?

[Dmartin]

Hi Kintree,
     The handwritng was written by my Gt Uncle from his unfinshed research on our family tree,possibly about 30 yrs ago. Although I've found his notes very useful in the past , I've  hit a brick wall with this lead. 
     My Gt G/F x3 John Martin b 1817 Erith ,Kent .Occupation Farmer Dissappears sometime after the 1851 census in England , he reappears back in Erith , Kent in the 1881 census. he married 1844 in Kent to Emily Elizabeth Buckhurst b1823 Erith , Kent. In the 1851 Census they had 3 children ,Charles b1845, Emily b 1847,William b 1849.
    His wife Emily died Ireland 5th June 1865 aged 42 yrs , I can only presume the Family went to live in Ireland prior to this. Emily was interred back in Erith , Kent.
    John Martin died 1893/94 at Bexley in Kent, where he made a will naming his children born in Erith and other children which could have been born in Ireland. i  cannot locate the will myself so have no other childrens names.
   I cannot find any other connection to Ireland with this family line only these notes , only the above details of "springmount".
  Regards, dez
Thanks for the info of springmount Anthnowen Kintree
dez
Any good ? Yes ,very good ,thank you very much

[kated]

Hi,

This is interesting. I have been tracin a family who lived in Springmount after the McCarthy in the 1837. They were Rawlins. Any connection?

Where do you see the reference to Springmount?

Kate

[Dmartin]

Hi Kated,
 The reference to Springmount is written after my gt G/m x3 Emily Elizabeth Martin ( maiden Buckhurst) who married John Martin both born Erith , Kent.  Emily died in Ireland 5th June 1865 aged 42 yrs. She was interned back home in Erith, Kent. I have yet to discover thier Ireland connection. John Martin was a  Farmer  in Erith , Kent. He was the son of Ebenezer Martin b abt 1781 & Mary Jones b abt 1786 .I do not know the birthplace of Johns parents. What i have now got to trace is records of John & Emily being in Ireland.  I have yet to discover thier Ireland connection. I cannot find a connection to Rawlins. Do you know how i could find parish records for the Springmount area between 1851 and 1875 ?. Any advice most welcome
regards,derek martin

[kated]

1837 Lewis Topographical Directory
Spring Mount near Ovens/Athnowen owned by Samuel McCarthy Esq

1847-2-12 JEFFERS, Charlotte Mary Miss; 21; Springmount Belgooly COR IRL; Cork Examiner obituary. At the age of 21, Charlotte Mary, daughter of the late Richard Jeffers, Esq., of Springmount, near Belgooly. (This is near Kinsale so discount)

1847-6-14 ADAMS, Francis John; ; Springmount COR IRL; Cork Examiner obituary

4 Mar 1863 William Rawlings of Springmount, parish of Inishcarra, Co Cork, a gentleman farmer, son of George H Rawlins married Charlotte Robertson

1863-3-18 CREAGH, Maryanne "relict of James" ( ); 77; Springmount Mallow COR IRL; Cork Examiner obituary

2 Oct 1865 George Henry Rawlings of Springmount, Ballincollig son of George Henry Rawlings married Elizabeth Godson

3 Aug 1866 Thomas Hewitt (?) RAWLINS m Francis Beamish L HEWITT Cork father George RAWLINS, a gentleman, address Spring Mount house parish of Athnowen

8 Mar 1893 Martha Anne Rawlins died  Springmount Mallow Co Cork, widow

1914 Guys Postal directory of Mallow
Heneage Major the Hon H G, D S O, J P, Springmount

Springmount is on the border of Inishcarra, Cloyne, Cork and  Ballincollig and Athnowen parishes.

Athnowen (and Kilnaglory)  COI parish is in Diocese Cork, Co Cork. Most destroyed 1922. The records start marriages 1845 (Macroom Athnowen parish Ovens Co Cork.)

Springmount poss parish of Inishcarra, Cloyne, Cork Microfilm 25 bap 1820-1882, mar 1820-1844, bur 1820-1882

Kate

[Dmartin]

Hi Kate D,
 Thankyou for the Springmount info, most grateful,will get back to you if i find any connection or other information. I do beleive John & Emily did have other children and they would have been born in Ireland between 1851 and 1875.
dez

[kated]

Hi,

I went to the Valuation Office chasing the occupiers of Springmount Athnowen Co Cork. There are two Spring Mount houses on the one map both west of Ballincollig. The one I was interested in is:

Springmount House (Ballincollig sheet 73 LHS Castleinch, Athnowen)
15 1859 George H Rawlins house garden and land lease 33 years at £32 10/- 1861 from Edmund Walsh
1864 same
1877 same
1882 Edmund Walsh leased from Reps of Lord Carbery
1884 Richard Carroll

The other is in the townland of Coolatanavally in Carrigrohanebeg sheet 73 middle PLU Cork 5a

This did not have my Rawlins in it. Perhaps this was the Martin house? Did you get the death certificate of Emily? Perhaps there was an obituary?

Kate

[kintree]

Kate

Springmount, townland of Coolatanavally, parish of Carrigrohanebeg, is due NORTH of Ballincollig.

But it might be a good idea for dez to investigate it anyway.

Adrian