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Offline Rustidge

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Emigrants to USA about 1860
« on: Saturday 24 March 07 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Martha Ann Greenwood born Colchester 1842 married John Cordener Bell 22 Oct 1860 Aldershot then emigrated to America. In 1867 her sister Eliza Emily was going to be sent to America to look after Martha`s children however Eliza(my ggrandmother) eloped to avoid this. I cant find any records for Martha and John or their children. I was told that they lived near Pawtucket. I find Martha`s brother Thomas Bagnall Greenwood (Colchester 1881 census) has a son born Jersey City America about 1873. But can find no records in UK for Martha but don't know how to look in USA
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Re: Emigrants to USA about 1860
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 March 07 11:27 BST (UK) »
Can't help overseas, but this seems to be Martha's birth reg

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Martha Ann Greenwood
Sept qtr 1842
Colchester district
Essex
Volume 12 Page 61

and here she is in 1851
Magdalen St
St Giles
Colchester
Essex
William Greenwood Head 33 Tailor
Eliza wife 33
Martha Ann 8 School at home
Thomas B 6 School at home
William 4 School at home
Eliza 2 months
Eliza E Woodham Servant U 17

all b. Colchester
HO107 1781 205 29

and this looks like the marriage of her parents
Dec qtr 1841
Colchester dist
on same page
William Greenwood
Eliza Bagnall
Vol 12 Page 139

Eliza's mother lived with William and Eliza on a later census.

If you require Martha's parents in earlier or later census I have them
Hope this is of some assistance to you

Suz

Sorry if you have this info and I have misread your post -did you mean you don't know how to look for US records from UK?


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Re: Emigrants to USA about 1860
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 March 07 13:07 BST (UK) »
Would you know why her sister was going to go over to care for the children? Did something happen to Martha. I've had a look around and can't find anyone who could fit Martha's profile. Do you have any more on John, like a birth year or occupation? I did find one John Bell in Providence Rhode Island in the 1880 census born in England in about 1831, but he is married to a Samanatha J, born in New Hampshire.

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Re: Emigrants to USA about 1860
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 March 07 14:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for replies. I have information for Martha until her marriage and for rest of family after, but was unable to solve family mystery of what became of Martha after emigrating. A clue that Thomas had a son born in New Jersey suggests he went out to join her for a time. I looked for John Bell in ancestry .com but found too many.
Also I was unsure of what state in USA I should look. I have no information on John Cordener Bell except marriage and likelihood that he was a soldier, as Colchester was a barrack town as was Aldershot.
Eliza Emily her sister also eloped with a soldier.
Brenda
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Re: Emigrants to USA about 1860
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 March 07 14:11 BST (UK) »
Checked 'Rhode Island Historical Cemeteries Transcription Project Index' and there are lots of Bells listed, including 2 Martha Bells but neither dates fit.
Pawtucket is close to Massachusetts so you might need to check there also.
Mybe is someone could find John & Martha Bell in U.S. census records it would pinpoint their location in the U.S.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!