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1851 Census: A Challenge - Where is William Judge JAMES?
« on: Thursday 22 March 07 15:22 GMT (UK) »
I would greatly appreciate a lookup in the 1851 census for William JAMES (aka William Judge JAMES) who was born abt 1793 in Oxfordshire, likely Oxford (based on the Oxford baptisms of his sisters, Mary and Harriet in 1790 and 1797, respectively).

The last fix I have in him was in 1841 when he was recorded as a printer living in Oxford:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,217094.msg1136514.html#msg1136514

His wife's name was Ann, b. 1793 Great Coxwell, Berks, but William is evidently not with her in Oxford in 1851, as turned up with my localized request on the Oxfordshire board:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,218307.msg1140028.html#msg1140028

He didn't die until 1858 in Oxford, so he is out there somewhere -- possibly mis-transcribed and probably not in Oxfordshire -- waiting for an expert sleuth to find him! :) :)

Thanks, rthom
Surname interests: Acfield (Ackfield, Hackfield) - SFK, LON / Adams - BDF / Askham - NHT / Baldrey - SFK / Charlwood - LON / Hall - NFK, ESS, LND / Hemmings (Hemings, Heming) - WAR, OXF, NHT, LON / Hibbert - BRK / Ivey - LON / James - OXF / Manning - NHT / Mason - NHT / Pearson - WAR, NHT / Pizzy - SFK / Polly (Polley) - OXF / Rivers - SFK / Sargeant - WAR, SRY, LON, USA / Simons (Simonds) - BDF / Taylor - NHT / Wiggins - OXF

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Re: 1851 Census: William Judge JAMES, b. 1793
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 March 07 16:23 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census

Abingdon Oxford

William James 58 inmate

HO107/1688/476/9

Check this out

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Re: 1851 Census: William Judge JAMES, b. 1793
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 March 07 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, Bluie.  Does it give his place of birth?  Presumably Abingdon Oxford is the census location?  Does it say what institution he is an inmate of? 8)  The plot thickens!!

I can see another William James, b. 1793 (+/- 2) in Oxfordshire, in the 1851 census index, but I don't have access.

Regards, rthom
Surname interests: Acfield (Ackfield, Hackfield) - SFK, LON / Adams - BDF / Askham - NHT / Baldrey - SFK / Charlwood - LON / Hall - NFK, ESS, LND / Hemmings (Hemings, Heming) - WAR, OXF, NHT, LON / Hibbert - BRK / Ivey - LON / James - OXF / Manning - NHT / Mason - NHT / Pearson - WAR, NHT / Pizzy - SFK / Polly (Polley) - OXF / Rivers - SFK / Sargeant - WAR, SRY, LON, USA / Simons (Simonds) - BDF / Taylor - NHT / Wiggins - OXF

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Re: 1851 Census: William Judge JAMES, b. 1793
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 March 07 16:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi - me again

I don't think thats him - he is an imate of littlemore lunetic asylum - but the details given are that he was a labourer born in Woodley Berkshire - which is a long way from Oxford and we are looking for a printer

Debbie
Pay(n)ton, Payton, Pe(a)rton all Oxfordshire and Berkshire - particularly Abingdon

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Re: 1851 Census: William Judge JAMES, b. 1793
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 March 07 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Debbie:

I was wondering if you would see this.   ;) 

I thought I would cast the net out a little wider, in the event he was travelling out of Oxfordshire.

I think you are right that this is not him.  Phew!  ;D

Regards, rthom
Surname interests: Acfield (Ackfield, Hackfield) - SFK, LON / Adams - BDF / Askham - NHT / Baldrey - SFK / Charlwood - LON / Hall - NFK, ESS, LND / Hemmings (Hemings, Heming) - WAR, OXF, NHT, LON / Hibbert - BRK / Ivey - LON / James - OXF / Manning - NHT / Mason - NHT / Pearson - WAR, NHT / Pizzy - SFK / Polly (Polley) - OXF / Rivers - SFK / Sargeant - WAR, SRY, LON, USA / Simons (Simonds) - BDF / Taylor - NHT / Wiggins - OXF

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Re: 1851 Census: A Challenge - Where is William Judge JAMES?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 March 07 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi
1851
H0107/1743/342/25
Living London Yard Banbury
Richard Moss Head age 66 Charlton Northampton Working Brewer
Elizabeth moss Wife age 73 Brailes Warwickshire Laundress
Samuel Grant age 46Joint Lodger Working Brewer
William James Unmar age 60 Banbury General Servant
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Re: 1851 Census: A Challenge - Where is William Judge JAMES?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 March 07 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, KD.  Aha - this must be the other one in the index.  But again it really looks like this isn't him as my WJJ was married and was a printer.  The process of elimination continues.  ;) :(

Regards, rthom
Surname interests: Acfield (Ackfield, Hackfield) - SFK, LON / Adams - BDF / Askham - NHT / Baldrey - SFK / Charlwood - LON / Hall - NFK, ESS, LND / Hemmings (Hemings, Heming) - WAR, OXF, NHT, LON / Hibbert - BRK / Ivey - LON / James - OXF / Manning - NHT / Mason - NHT / Pearson - WAR, NHT / Pizzy - SFK / Polly (Polley) - OXF / Rivers - SFK / Sargeant - WAR, SRY, LON, USA / Simons (Simonds) - BDF / Taylor - NHT / Wiggins - OXF

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Re: 1851 Census: A Challenge - Where is William Judge JAMES?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 March 07 23:31 BST (UK) »
FOUND HIM!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

William James, 58, Printer Compositor, b. England (!!); lodging with the family of David Fleming, 49, Printer Compositor; at 28 Carnegie Street, Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Scotland. 

Looks like he was away from home in Oxford doing some printing work in, yes, Scotland.  Debbie: You were pretty close with your thoughts on a sabbatical. 

Many thanks to all for the efforts looking for him.  Phew!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,218307.msg1179823.html#msg1179823

Regards, rthom  :) :) :)
Surname interests: Acfield (Ackfield, Hackfield) - SFK, LON / Adams - BDF / Askham - NHT / Baldrey - SFK / Charlwood - LON / Hall - NFK, ESS, LND / Hemmings (Hemings, Heming) - WAR, OXF, NHT, LON / Hibbert - BRK / Ivey - LON / James - OXF / Manning - NHT / Mason - NHT / Pearson - WAR, NHT / Pizzy - SFK / Polly (Polley) - OXF / Rivers - SFK / Sargeant - WAR, SRY, LON, USA / Simons (Simonds) - BDF / Taylor - NHT / Wiggins - OXF

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Re: 1851 Census: A Challenge - Where is William Judge JAMES?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 March 13 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi there Rthom my descendant is David Fleming whom william James is lodging with , and his family are all Printer Compositors or Stereotyper etc in the London Middlesex area , he had brothers Alexander , William Leslie and Charles all involved in and around the Printing trade
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Scotland- Fleming , Bennett , Mooney , Brannigan , McIlroy , Stewart and many more
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