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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #207 on: Friday 23 March 07 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Ooops   :-[ sorry Gadget I missed that bit.   Must learn to read all the posting properly  :)
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« Reply #208 on: Friday 23 March 07 18:19 GMT (UK) »
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

It's a long thread Jean  :o

I think we're going round in circles now though. I do hope they get that envelope soon or I'll be getting near a free TV licence rather than just a bus pass  :-\

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #209 on: Friday 23 March 07 18:59 GMT (UK) »
It has been puzzling me also just why at least half of the bed in the forefront appears to be placed past the altar rail at the right side.  ???

Also since the 2 photos have been reposted (page 13), is it just me or does the little soft toy (dog or bear) at the side of the bed have slight differences, or is it just the resolution of the photo that is different, ie in 1best, the overhang of the bedcover appears to touch the toy's head slighty, whereas in the 2.2 room photo the head is clear of the cover.  :o

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #210 on: Friday 23 March 07 19:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello All
I have read with great interest many of the post which are very interesting and plausible but like most photos of this nature are open to speculation.
 It appears to have been taken in a old store/ house/ room or something similar. The candle seems to have been placed many years later just prior to the photo being taken.
I suspect it is taken with an old roll film camera with a faulty interlock to avoid  you taking two pictures on ONE .  IE double exposure one section of film. This would account for the LH side being taken in different light, after the RH side had already taken prior to the second one.
What looks like a mattress or stuffed armchair appears to have most of the straw "stuffing" exposed. This could be due to vermin having attacked the covering of the chair over time . The monkeys stance is probably due to the second exposure being taken at a slightly different angle to the first exposure.
This is my opinion based on progressive analysis, taking in to account that the objects in the room are from various dates. IE: the furniture object is typical of late Victorian with (copied Cromwellian type turned spindles). I do not think it is any para normal scene (very often used by speculators) for which is almost always a natural "double Exposure".
Before retirement I was involved in Engineering and Forensic Diagnosis, and I have applied the BASIC principles that I experienced over my lifetime. Without the actual photo(not a copy) , which is of very poor quality, in most cases a sound explanation could be reasonably achieved
Hope this gives room for thought on this intriguing photographic example.

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #211 on: Friday 23 March 07 20:57 GMT (UK) »


 The candle seems to have been placed many years later just prior to the photo being taken.

Raphael


Hi Raphael,

What gives you the idea about the candle? Because it's not burnt down?

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #212 on: Friday 23 March 07 21:04 GMT (UK) »


 The candle seems to have been placed many years later just prior to the photo being taken.

Raphael


Hi Raphael,

What gives you the idea about the candle? Because it's not burnt down?

Kirsty

Hi Kirsty,
I am aware that the candle was not burnt, I was referring to its age in relationship to the room.
Hope however analysis helped and gave room for thought.

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #213 on: Friday 23 March 07 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Absolutely! It was a fascinating read and I appreciate both the comments and the time involved with reading and posting.

 Thank you  :) :) :)

Kirsty
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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #214 on: Friday 23 March 07 21:29 GMT (UK) »
Both candles appear to be sitting off-centre, particularly the one on the right.  However, I just don't get how that would determine that they were placed there  a number of years later!! To me, a candle is a candle is a candle.  The design  of candles never changed much in that era.  Therefore, so what if fresh candles were put out!

So Raphael, can your forensic expertise explain in more detail just what exactly you mean, cos I am also missing the point of your diagnosis.

I personally so far, go along with Gadget, and think there is some truth in the photo having something to do with spiritualism.

Anne  :P
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« Reply #215 on: Friday 23 March 07 21:49 GMT (UK) »
In terms of the photgraphic analysis, Anne, I don't think there is much difference between Raphael and me. I talk about sandwich printing/montage with glass plates , whereas Raphael talks of double exposure on roll film. Roll film was first introduced in 1888 by Kodak on a small scale and more like that which we have known it in 1900.

My view that it was an atempt at psychic/spiritualist photgraphy was based on the history of this and the information that Kirsty has provided about the two ladies.

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