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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #189 on: Friday 23 March 07 12:08 GMT (UK) »
They look like white coats like doctors wear.  I still think the object on the right looks like a ballgown or wedding dress on a stand.  It also seems to be in some sort of glass case, unless that is down to all the jiggerpokery that has gone on with the negative.

Liz

ps.  Perhaps it isn't meant to be anything odd, just an attempt by a poor photographer like me to show a landscape view of the room and then when it didn't work out, the photographer tried to alter it and it all went totally wrong.

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #190 on: Friday 23 March 07 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Looks along similar lines as the crypt of civilsation

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Entry 20 July 2006
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #191 on: Friday 23 March 07 13:14 GMT (UK) »
     I am trying my best to sit back and listen to what comes over - but it's very difficult.
     So if I may, let me put forward my humble opinion (as someone who has experience as
an A.P,I.) and also with a little experience in architectural photography.

     I am absolutely certain that the photo' has not been doctored (don't ask for an explanation
 - it would be long and complex - and I am busy /tired), however I do beleive that for
explanations already given (everything facing the camera - etc) that it is a set piece.


     The unusual lighting is i believe (as I have already pointed out) due to painting with light.
As for the different angles of the walls, that is entirely due to the effect of both converging
verticals and converging horizontals - both influenced by the angle of the camera's focal plane.

      Given that the forgoing is correct then we are left with the following questions, and
these are the important ones:


 Is this an actual room that has been rearranged specifically for a photograph?
 
 Is it a set up for to demonstrate something?

 Is it a set up to mislead someone.

 Then the final question must be either where or why ?

                                     


                                                   Denn


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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #192 on: Friday 23 March 07 13:17 GMT (UK) »
It's this sort of puzzle that will keep rootschatters busy for months!   ;D
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #193 on: Friday 23 March 07 13:30 GMT (UK) »
     This is difficult to see and best done by manipulating the light levels on the
monitor.  The space behind the railings has two square columns on each side
jutting out from the wall. These columns support ribs that rise to the apex of the room
  to a large hanging boss. (sorry I don't know the technical term. ) This large boss seems to be casting the eagle shaped shadow. the light soorces seem to come from the left and the right (look at the shadows formed by the shelves at the back) This was probably done by firing flashes simultaneously from the left and the right.
        The roof ribs at the rear are cast iron while the deeper ones at the front are probably cosmetic to enhance and beautify this particular area and hide the plainer cast
iron ones. The whole room therefore may have been a small chapel which had change of
use to living quarters.
          Sorry for the crudity of the photo but I am rushing off to an appoinment.
  The X's are the suare columns  and the O's the deep ribs. A is the hanging boss.

        Tomkin ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #194 on: Friday 23 March 07 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Sorrry Denn, I have to disagree with you here. I also have experience and qualifications in this area and I believe the photograph is from more than one original. The sides just dont match at all. I've drawn various parallel lines - horizontally and vertically and the room and the furniture in it would just collapse if it was real.

I have chopped the two real sides and put them together. If you note the pillar on the right seems to become a flat wall, whereas it's opposite number on the left has a normal indented wall behind. The bed seems to stand in front of a void. The railings on the right don't seem to end anywhere......etc., etc.

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #195 on: Friday 23 March 07 13:35 GMT (UK) »
 P.S.

      I never thought that there was another bed behind the railings.
 the iron bedstead that you think that you can see is a shadow cast on the wall
  by the light from  the left and the obect that is standing behind the railings.

     Tomkin.  Now I'm off ;D ;D ;D

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #196 on: Friday 23 March 07 13:46 GMT (UK) »
       I agree totally  with Denn.   I think that too many things are being read into
what is basically a very difficult scene to photograph.

    Tomkin ;D ;D ;D      ( now I'm definitely off )
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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #197 on: Friday 23 March 07 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Sorrry Denn, I have to disagree with you here. ----How dare you disagree with ME


I have chopped the two real sides and put them together. If you note the pillar on the right seems to become a flat wall, whereas it's opposite number on the left has a normal indented wall behind.

Gadget


Okay Gadget, I'm not sure that I understand what you're saying about the pillars, But on close examination  both left and right pillars appear to be three dimensional - it's just that the right hand one is much darker.

The only real puzzler to me is the horrific angle of the puppet/monkey in the glasss case.


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Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol