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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #180 on: Thursday 22 March 07 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Rian ~

If you look at my posting I said that i had made a quick change - I straightened up the monkey and table. If I had spent a bit more time the double image would not be there - I would have removed it  ;D

It was to demonstrate that that side wasn't taken on the same plate as the other side.

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #181 on: Friday 23 March 07 01:04 GMT (UK) »
Worthing indeed!!
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Worthing, Sussex, is where the negs currently reside - the two sisters both died there, but it's doubtful that's where the pictures were taken. One sister was born in London, the other in Scotland and they had a younger brother, who was also born in London (Islington), where the family stayed until the 1960's. The sisters were great hoarders of family history artifacts - happy are we for newspaper clippings, photos and letters!  ;D

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #182 on: Friday 23 March 07 02:00 GMT (UK) »
So now we have Spirtualist,s,plus female Freemason,s,plus a Scottish connection! More interesting by the minute,and no one has mentioned the fact that the photo frame,s facing us on the table are of the fold up concertina type used by frequent traveller,s.(Not Romany please!)
Could the mismatch of various angle,s,item,s etc;have been caused by accident or vibration? Or can it be proven otherwise?
The 'Ghost' image seem,s to be a reflection of a 'something' from behind us,our right shoulder.
I agree it all look,s a bit fishy,but if as one post suggested it is pro tem housing,well,Isuppose some of us have done that,with similar,tidy,but 'not right' result,s?
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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #183 on: Friday 23 March 07 03:10 GMT (UK) »

Another item in the room: this curtain. Concealing a passage, or a hidey-hole for spooks? ;) Or a small window - drawn because it's night?

I hadn't noticed it before - even though we've been staring at the display case. Speaking of which, you can't see through 2 sides of the case. Hmmm. Isn't there a sharp line between the curtain and the pillar - it's like the pillar image has chopped off the end of the curtain.

This thread is ridiculously entertaining and absorbing. I must find something else to do while I wait for the neg envelope to surface. I have a 10 week old baby. If she didn't sleep so much, I wouldn't be here - shouldn't complain!

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Hadyn:

For the first time since posting it, I'm actually starting to look much more closely at the image. The two images below where I've highlighted show clear lines where the photo has unmistakably been cut and put together as well as other tell-tale signs.




After a couple of days, I actually wondered whether the image was in fact transferred from a standard film negative onto the glass for some reason. The fact that the photo has been cut around, edited and put together provides this reason I would think.

It seems to beg the question:

why is the image of this room important enough to edit?


EDIT: I wondered why there are two seemingly identical negatives in the envelope. On my own computer I have two apparently identical files labelled 1 and 2.2. I've been assuming that they were both scans of the same negative, just that 2.2 was a rescan - I did the scans back in January. I just now noticed the sharp cut line in the image, then flicked back to the other scan and.... the line wasn't there!!!  :o I think I must have scanned both images (not one, as I had thought) which I assumed were identical, but are subtly different - one has been put together better. I will post both the images I have in a new post for all to inspect! This certainly proves quite a few theories!!!

Excited Hadyn  ;D

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #184 on: Friday 23 March 07 04:05 GMT (UK) »
As mentioned in above post, here are the two seemingly identical, yet different negatives I scanned

1) labeled on my HDD '1 best'



2) Labeled on my HDD '2.2 room'

 

3) what gave it away:



room 2.2 also appears to have been scanned at higher resolution!
hmm, seems odd that the studs around the image are identical...

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Trickery after all  ::) But why? Is it for the benefit of the ghostly figure?  :-\

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #185 on: Friday 23 March 07 05:16 GMT (UK) »
hmmm... :-\

I don't know....I think the sharp vertical line in the first version is just due to the low resolution of the scan, and not anything that exists on the actual neg.

A scan of each neg at the same resolution (600dpi) would tell us for sure - don't suppose that's possible?

I know we're probably never going to work this out, but it's fun detective work anyway - and I kinda like the ridiculously long threads that you can never escape from!!  ;D

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #186 on: Friday 23 March 07 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Curtain behind ET ?  No ... its four coats hung up on four coat-hooks !   Look again ...
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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #187 on: Friday 23 March 07 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Certainly are coats, Lydart!

I'm glad that Hadyn has had chance to look at the photo in more detail. The various different angles and lighting effects are the give away fro it being a 'stick and paste' job of some kind. It is possible that the 'roof' might also be from somewhere else. All things are possible in a darkroom then and on a computer today.

My Worthing comment was said in the manner of all this very strange saga - spritualism, circuses, etc. and then Worthing. I was expecting someone to pull the ghost out of a handbag!

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Re: What kind of building is this and where??
« Reply #188 on: Friday 23 March 07 11:29 GMT (UK) »
I agree they are not curtains but the "coats" unless they are modern day   dont look "bulky" enough to me   ??? Had not noticed that fact that you cant see through the glass case, thats odd in itself.  ???
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