STANLEY's in Ravenstonedale

[StanSearch]

I have located my great-grandfather and great-grandmother who are:

John Stanley b1844 in Keswick, and living in the Village of Newbiggin. Married to Anne Stanley at the time of the 1881 census.

I would like to find out who John's father was, but I do not know his Father's forename. I would also like to discover Ann's maiden name.

Their first child, James was born in 1866 in Cockermouth and they moved to West Yorkshire somewhere between 1885 and 1888. There was a marriage of a John Stanley in Cockermouth between July and september 1863 but I have not got concrete evidence that this was the same John.

Richard

[KathyM]

Have you found James' birth certificate ?  I couldn't find it on freebmd ..... but have not checked the gro index.....have you done this ?

[StanSearch]

I have only just started researching my family tree and as yet have not got any copies of birth or marriage cerificates. All the information I have got is from the internet ((1901 and 1881 censuses) To be honest I do not know what you mean by gro index (which explains how new I am to this).

[Nicky]

Hi
The GRO is the general records office where you can obtain birth,marriage and death certificates from. If you have a rough idea of the year for a small fee you can search online for the details which would enable you to apply for the certificate.

You can search for the details at www.1837online.com
once you have found the correct birth for James you can apply from that site for the certificate which would give his mother and father.

Another site to try for the bmd details and this is free to search
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

always worth looking at that site first,records are being added about once a month or so,so keep checking back.


Here are the family in the 1891 census
address North Road

John Stanley, head, married, age 47, tailor, born Cumberland Keswick
Ann Stanley, wife, married, age 45, born Cumberland Keswick
Mary Ellen Morton, daughter, married, age 23,woollen feeder born Cumberland Millbeck
Susannah Stanley, daughter, single,age 20,woollen feeder born Cumberland Applethwaite
John Stanley Jr,son, single, age 19,woollen spinner, born Cumberland Applethwaite
George Stanley, son, age 17,woollen warper, born Westmoreland Newbiggin
Miles Stanley, son, age 15, warper woollen born Westmoreland Newbiggin
William Stanley, son, age 12 born Westmoreland Newbiggin
Robert Stanley, son, age 10 born Westmoreland Newbiggin
Margaret Stanley, daughter, age 8 born Westmoreland Newbiggin
Charles Stanley, son, age 6 born Westmoreland Newbiggin
Eva Stanley, grandaughter, age 3 born Yorkshire Ravensthorpe
Annie Stanley, grandaughter, age 1 born Yorkshire Ravensthorpe
Fred Morton, son in law, married, age 25, scribbler cleaner, born Yorkshire Hopton


I have a feeling the grandchildren may well be Morton not Stanley although on the original image they are listed as Stanley.

     
Civil parish:    Mirfield 
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Saviour 
County:    Yorkshire 

Source information:    RG12/3730
Registration district:    Dewsbury 
Sub registration district:    Mirfield 
ED, institution, or vessel:    19 
Folio:    77 
Page:    30

If you would like any other advice please post and there are a lot of very kind people on this site that are only too willing to help.

Nicky

[StanSearch]

Nicky,

Many thanks for all of this.

I have tracked back to John and Ann through my Grandfatehr and Grandmother and have details of all their respective children which exactly match those kindly provided by yourself - so thanks for this.

The information you have provided is most useful and I will keep in touch with this site if I need help - Once again, many thanks and I appreciate you giving up your time to help.

Richard

[KathyM]

Hi again.......this might sounf a bit strange...but in the 1960's I knew a girl called Helen MORTON......she lived in Ravensthorpe. Dewsbury (which is very close to Mirfield).......could she be relaTted to you ?  She was at the same school as me....Wheelwright Grammar School and would be in her 50's now

[StanSearch]

I had not seen Mary Ellen Morton until you gave me the information. I have not accessed the 1891 census - (incidentally where did you access this?)

I was born and went to school ih Huddersfield living there for most of my life -I know Ravensthorpe well.

My grandfather was Thomas (later calling himself Tom) who is not listed in the 1891 census would have been 21 at the time. He married in 1894, but was obviously not living with his parents for at least three years prior to that

With regard to Helen Morton and a possible relation - you could be right - she is not listed in the household on the1901 census.

[Nicky]

Hi


I looked up Mary Ellen Stanley in the 1881 and she was a servant in a household called Dent.

Details forMary Ellen as follows

Mary Ellen Stanley, servant, age 13,domestic general servant born Westmoreland Ravenstonedale.

Address:    Village Of Newbiggin 
Civil parish:    Ravenstonedale 
County/Island:    Westmorland 

Source information:    RG11/5202 
Registration district:    East Ward 
Sub-registration district:    Orton 
ED, institution, or vessel:    10 
Folio:    100 
Page:    6


It is always best to try and check all the census, as quite often children are out in service etc.

Nicky

[StanSearch]

Thanks,

Of course! -  The great thing about going back in time is that you enter into a whole new world - Eva Stanley at thirteen was a bobbin winder!

Thanks for all your help - I have registered with www.ancestory.co.uk

Richard

If I do find a link between my family and helen Morton, I'll let you know.

Richard