1891, 1901 please - Siebert

[searchers]

Hello,

An 1891 and 1901 census request please.

John Henry Siebert (Seabert)  b. 1839 Hesse Cassel, Germany  - Baker
Carl, b. 1864 Bethnal Green
Anne, b. 1871  Bethnal Green
Alice, b. 1873           "
Elizabeth, b. 1874    "
William, b. 1880, Forest Gate

Also, a domestic servant, with them in 1881, in case that helps!
Eliza Higginson, b. 1845  Ireland

In 1881, they were at 63 St. Georges St., London, Middlesex

Thanks very much,
Charlotte

[Reyz]

Hi

Not much help - they were not at that address in 1891
The district was 'St George in the East' if that helps.

Good luck
Reyz

[Meliora]

Having noticed that in the 1881  census that William Siebert was born in Forest Gate c 1880, I thought it worthwhile looking in Essex for anything on John & family.  The only thing I managed to find was something for a Ann b c 1871 Bethnal Green.

1891 census
RG12/1347  folio 33  page 14
15, Elm Terrace  Leyton

Annie Siebert  S age 20   Servant  b  Bethnal Green
head of house  Alfred Bowler     confectioner.

Meliora

[jennifer c]

Hi, Have you picked up Conrad Siebert a Baker from Hessen Germany in the 1871 census with his family on RG10/502/25.


Jennifer

[searchers]

Hi,

Thank you all for your searching and ideas.

I had the following from a lookup for 1871:

Sarah, 31, wife, married, Bethnal Green
Carl, 7, St. George East
Anne, 6 mths, Bethnal Green

15 St. Peter's Square, Bethnal Green
RG10/479 /71 pg 48

(wife Sarah died in 1882 B. Green)

Conrad sounds very promising.  Son, Carl, has Conrad as one of his middle names.

I would like the 1871 details please, plus maybe that will help in finding them in 91/1901.

I had wondered about the child b. in Forest Gate - maybe a grandchild. 
Thank you for finding Annie also!

Thanks,
Charlotte

[jennifer c]

Hi 1871 census    8 Tysson Street Bethnal Green

Conrad 35 Baker Hessen Germany
Matilda 31 Whitechapel
Conrad 10     "
Minnie 8        "
Louisa H 5    "
John H 3  Bethnal Green
Walter 2    "            "


Jennifer

[jennifer c]

1891 census  RG12/266/177   21 Buckhurst Street Bethnal Green

John 23 Boot maker born Bethnal Green
Louisa 24                                   "
It says she is his wife, could be his sister?

RG12/206/81   55 Bentham or Benthall Street Hackney

Conrad 30 Chair/cabinet maker born Aldgate
Emma 36 bethnal Green
Emma E 2 Hackney


Jennifer

[searchers]

I found a marriage on freebmd, and Conrad would perhaps be the brother of John Henry Siebert.

Conrad Siebert & Matilda Webb, m. 1860

John Henry Siebert & Sarah Ann Maria Branch, m. 1862

Thanks for sending on the details on Conrad.
Charlotte

[Isabella123]

John Henry Siebert was my great great grandfather and Annie my great grandmother. We have an oil painting of John Henry and also family photographs of Annie and her relatives. Annie siebert married into the parsons family. John henry had a bakery and tea shop in Stoke Newington london in wich Annie his daughter worked and where she met her future husband. We still have the tea pot she served his tea in. Annie had two daughters Isabel and Dorothy but her husband tragically died in an accident when he was 28. Annie did not re marry.

Just before the WW1 there was anti german persecution and John Henry had bricks thrown through his shop window. He decided to up sticks with his children and leave for Austalia leaving only Carl Seibert and Annie (Parsons) behind. Annie was married and settled in East london (Leyton I believe) and Carl had carved himself a successful career as a concert singer , appearing at the crystal palace, we have a brochure of one of his performances somewhere.

Apparently John Henry became a very successful sheep farmer in Australia with his children.  I am very interested to hear of any other news regarding the family. A