David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP

[TunjiLees]

Hello everyone,

All this is very interesting and exciting. When is this gathering planned?

I have also been researching the Kirkcaldy line, though my last ancestor with that name died in 1921.

-Tunji Lees
Flanders, Belgium

[hayalan52]

 >:(Ooops!! sorry Bruce. The Robert that your 3rd cousin mentioned actually died as he stated in 1918 not in 1818 as I typed in error. His death certificate had his parents names. I also wonder if he knew that the second wife of Robert; Annie Laurie was their servant in the 1901 Census.

Cheers,
Alan

[bkirkcaldy]

hayalan thanks so much for all the research. my research has also led me to  the brunton but i have now taken it further to 1774. my email address is (*) and i can be reached on (*). I get the impression that a connection can be made from not an immediate lineage but from an offshoot of a brother somewhere. The other Bruce Kirkcaldy mentioned two brothers, one of whom was called Alex Kirkcaldy who emigrated to Australia after  the Crimean war - he is certain that the connection with us and the Tasmanian Kirkcaldys is from this line. You sound like an amazing researcher, I am so lame. My step grandmother also lives in Sydney (Elizabeth Kirkcaldy) - might you be interested to contact her if this is where you are based?

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[bkirkcaldy]

so hayalan how do you know the second wife was called Anne Laurie and these details - i need to be schooled! Also Tunji - September 26th in Kirkcaldy town - anyone else available? Also does anyone here use facebook too?

[TunjiLees]

I use facebook under my name, Tunji Lees, but sadly, I doubt I'll be able to attend the gathering. I'm in Scotland for a month in April, then for a month and a half in the summer holidays, but will have to be back to Belgium in September before university starts again.

Tunji Lees

[hayalan52]

Bruce; we are on face book. We have had a bit of a look at the Kirkcaldy's from Tasmania but no link yet. I can see though that your line with William and Agnes probably does as they seem to have had more children and that line with the Alexanders seem to have more whereas we seem to be pretty much stuck with Robert and David. I have checked out some possibles back to about 1700 and it just seems to be those two names as the main ones.
Did you know that of all the Kirkcaldy's listed on census records as living in the Orkney's; ScotlandsPeople have mo records of a Kirkcaldy being born or dying there from 1553 to today? There are also no recorded marriages of a Kirkcaldy there from 1553 to 1854. I can't check the statutory registers from 1855 to now because you need to enter a spouse surname. A very interesting piece of trivia. When we started thei I used to wonder why there seemed to be many Kirkcaldy's in the Orkney's but it appears now that they must only go there for a while. I wonder where they come from and why they went there. Does anyone have an answer to that
Now to the mystery of how we know about Annie Laurie:
Well when I got the birth certificate of Robert Kirkcaldy it showed him having been married to Catherine Hunter 1st wife and Annie Laurie 2nd wife. It also shows that she was there whenn he died. I will send you a copy. This is what comes from ScotlandsPeople and should demonstrate why it is such a good site. I have not found anywhere else that offers birth, death and marriage certificates for such a reasonable price. If only England and Wales would do the same.
I will also send a copy of James Kirkcaldy's death certificate.
You said you have gone back further than William and Agnes; would you mind sharing that info here as it may help us in our search for our Kirkcaldy's by being able to eliminate the ones you have.
 The Linda Kirkcaldy you have talked to is Leslie's cousins daughter (1st cousin once removed).

Cheers

[hayalan52]

Oooooooooops again

When we got the "Death" certificate of Robert Taylor Kirkcaldy it should have read.
Sorry I guess it is too early in the morning here. I got up at 3am and it is now just 5:15am Tuesday morning.
We are about 1300 klms north of Sydney on Brisbane's southern boundary in the city of Logan. Our cities are determined by population and not by Cathedrals. There are several cities here surrounding Brisbane and we are one of them. The city of The Gold Coast is right on our southern boundary.

 

[bkirkcaldy]

Here is the extent of my research in regards to ancestry.co.uk

Myself - born Malawi (*)
My Father (*) Born (*)
My grandfather - Robert Kirkcaldy born ? died 1992. Had one sister, Rosemary Kirkcaldy and another Catherine Kirkcaldy. Rosemary later married Joss Ackland and they had many children and many grandchildren.
His father was Robert Kirkcaldty born 1897 died 1954 married to Phyllis Nyasa Ryall (1900 -?)
His father was David Kirkcaldy (1837 - 1873) married to Isabella McPherson.
His father was James Kirkcaldy (1808 - 1889).
His father was William Kirkcaldy (1774 - 1844) married to Agnes Brunton.

That is the extent of my parental lineage of the Kirkcaldys in my line. However, I also have names of brothers at each generation and in one family there were around 8 family members of 6 brothers and 2 sisters.  It also seems that at each generation there have been many brothers and a few sisters. Would you need these brothers names or will this suffice?

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[bkirkcaldy]

Brothers and sisters of my forebears: Names and dates of birth - that is all that is known.

Brother of Robert Hunter Kirkcaldy (my great grandfather 1897 - 1954) - David Kirkcaldy (1899 - ?)

Brothers of David Kirkcaldy ( my great great grandfather 1937 - 1873) -
William 1835, James 1836, George 1839, Mary 1841, Alexander 1844, Agnes 1846, John 1850 and Robert 1856.

Cousins included: Cale/ James Kirkcaldy 1860, David Kirkcaldy 1862, John Kirkcaldy 1864, William Kirkcaldy 1868, Alex Kirkcaldy 1869 and Peter Kirkcaldy 1874.

I notice I have confused the generations but hopefully these names and dates of birth might allow for some collusion!