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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello is everyone within this discussion a Kirkcaldy or related to the Kirkcaldys? Please advice im trying to research my family history and my name is Bruce Kirkcaldy.

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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 19 February 09 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Bruce, Hi and welcome to this thread. I am not a Kirkcaldy however my wife is a Kirkcaldy by birth and she is a 2nd cousin to jenc (also a Kirkcaldy by birth) whose username you will see as the owner of this thread. My wife and I are from Australia. Tunjilees is also a relation (3rd cousin once removed). We also are fairly new to this. If you are on here then perhaps you have joined Ancestry.com in which case you can view our public tree and get an idea of what we know.
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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Hiya, i fished out an old email of a 3rd cousin of mine who has done some solid research and this is email he typed to me - can anyone find any parts where their own lines may fall into places?

Dear Bruce,
 
I remember my grandfather, David Kirkcaldy telling me of his brother who had left for Africa and had been an officer in the army and the story about kenya. later, researching recors on internet disproved any association with Nairobi. You story got me thinking again. However, I became a bit sceptical when some birth details may not have fitted. I remember my grandfather telling me about how his brother came back to Scotland for the burial of their father (Robert Kirkcaldy), the death being 20. february 1918. I
 
The facts are that on the baptism records of my grandfather (David Kirkcaldy born in Mipplort, Bue on 4th may 1899), his father Robert Kirkcaldy was not present (being in Glasgow). The uncle, Robert HUNTER was the witness present at that baptism. Robert Kirkcaldy his father had married Catherine Hunter at Old Mill Road, Uddingston on 20th February 1894. Robert Kirkcaldy had been born on 22 .12.1864 at Duchally Farm and was the son of an overseer David Kirkcaldy (married to Isabel Kirkcaldy on 31.12.1860). My grandfather David had many half sisters and brothers, but only one fullb-blooded brother, Robert Kirkcaldy (child of Robert Kirkcaldy and catherine Hunter, the adughter of a merchant seaman and herself a confectioner). That brother Robert Kirkcaldy had been born on 8th february 1897 in West George Street, Glasgow. Since their mother (Catherine "Hunter" Kirkcaldy)had died 3 years after his birth (six months after my grandfathers birth in 1899, and judging from the interest of the uncle Charles Hunter, it COULD be that the uncle left with the eldest son in 1898 for Africa. But then In June 1898 Robert your direct relative would have had to be an iunfant of some 1-2 years of age? Is that likely? He was having children judging by your comments from 1924-1929 (I think you did an error in tyoing Robert Charles birthdate as March 1824 and meant 1924?). The key to all this mystery would be if the relative Robert Hunter Kirkcaldy who left for Africa was born on 8.02.1897 in Glasgow. Does that fit?
 

 

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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #48 on: Monday 02 March 09 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Bruce, We have no connection so far with these Kirkcaldy's but somewhere down the line I am sure they are connected.
All our Kirkcaldy's so far seem to be from Fife which is where the name seems to have originated.
Keep searching and keep us posted. We have found the IGI at the Family Search website useful along with ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk and Ancestry.co.uk but Ancestry has some problems with transcription errors from the originals which you can view on Scotlands People. You will find lots of variations of the name but don't let that stop you because a lot of the spelling was dependant on the registrar at the time.

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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 05 March 09 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Hayalan.

Hi thanks for the reply. I am convinced that Jenc's mention of a Robert Kirkcaldy who died in 1920 could be my great great great grandfather. I need to look into the birth dates but it seems fitting because of the rough time frame and location. You all use IGI - this is new to me and I am going to go and check it out now!

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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 05 March 09 13:26 GMT (UK) »
You lot might be interested to know that I run the Kirkcaldy Clan group on Facebook. I schemed upon the idea of doing a get together for Kirkcaldys of the world to meet up. My story has been picked up by the press - the event will be hosted in Kirkcaldy town:

http://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/39Clan-Kirkcaldy39-plans-its-own.5039146.jp

Please advise if any of you are interested in coming along?

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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #51 on: Friday 06 March 09 08:33 GMT (UK) »
Leslie and I are both on Facebook so we will search for you and hopefully we can add you.

About Robert Kirkcaldy:
He was born on abt 1832-33; we can't find his birth record yet. He says in Kilmany according to Census records.
He married Isabella Johnston on 5 Mar 1853 in Cupar, Fife
They had 11 children between 1854 and 1876
Isabella died on 11 Feb 1889 at Newton, Forgan, Fife
He married Isabella Morris on 7 Jun 1890 at St. Paul's Square, Perth
He died on 21 Feb 1920 at Gauldry, Balmerino
Isabella died on 13 Oct 1921 at Gauldry, Balmerino

You can get this from Ancestry on our tree or on Genes Reunited on Ours and Jennifer's trees
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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #52 on: Friday 06 March 09 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bruce
Most interested in the Kirkcaldy clan gathering.  I had a text message from my brother who lives on Majorca to say he had seen it too.  What a great idea.  I would love to be there.
Jennifer
Kincardineshire - Beattie Dickson Tavendale Donaldson Whyte Wishart
Forfar - Adam Grindlay Easson Fyffe Livestone Wilson Fairweather Boath
Fife - Berry Brown Keith Kirkcaldy Walton Johnstone Gourlay Robb Robertson Pattie Stevenson Taylor
Glasgow - Fitzgerald, Campbell, McInnis, Sheriff, (Smith, Chambers.) maybe Ireland
Angus - Saunders, McGregor Richardson  Moore.
Inverness-shire - McLean (I hope)

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Re: David Kirkcaldy's Birthplace HELP
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 08 March 09 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Bruce;

Just done a bit of research on your 3rd Cousin and traced him back to William Kirkcaldy and Agnes Brunton which is obvious where you will go as well but without any more details on you, your father and grand father I can't say for sure where you fit in. I have done up a descendancy chart from William Kirkcaldy and Agnes Brunton and am happy to send it to you. this should be a good kickstart for you and with a little bit of research you should be able to fill in the gaps.
Just looked their marriage up on the IGI: William Kirkcaldy married Agnes Brunton on the 24 DEC 1804 at Monimail, Fife, Scotland.
To do all this I used ScotlandsPeople to obtain the death certificate of the Robert Kirkcaldy your 3rd cousin mentioned that died 1818. From there I searched the census records on Ancestry.co.uk and found him with his parents. Then further back to the grandparents, James and Isabella. I then came forward again in the census to find approximately when James died. I then used ScotlandsPeople to find the death certificate of James which listed his parents as William Kirkcaldy and Agnes Brunton. Then it was onto Family Search to find their marriage. I am only an amateur but this only took about an hour of research. It then took me another 2 hours to put it all into PAF. I am a bit slow at typing.

We can't find any tie in to our line yet with William and Agnes but if you start working their line and we keep up on ours I feel confident that they will tie in eventually. Probably back in the 1600's.

I think Jennifer will agree.

Would love to attend the Kirkcaldy Clan but we can't get back for a couple of years yet.

If you send me your email address I can send your a gedcom file of what I have got. my email is: *

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