KISLER Family 1861 - Publicans?

[lizziec]

I'm trying to investigate the Kisler family - fortunately a fairly unusual surname, in this spelling - though I have seen in in some places mistranscribed as Risler! However they moved around a lot, and I can't find them in or around 1961. According to the birthplaces of their children, it appears they may have been in Whitechapel about this time, though their next child was born in 1863 in Essex.

The family is:

Jacob KISLER b 1833 Germany
Mary KISLER b 1837 Whitechapel
Margaret KISLER b 1860ish Whitechapel

I have some information that suggests that there were Kislers running some pubs in the late 1850's - the Prince of Orange, Fieldgate Street, Whitechapel and the White Hart, 43(126) Leman Street, Goodman's fields. I don't know whether they might have been living there too? (Maybe the whole family, or just Jacob, and maybe his widowed mother Elizabeth b 1800, since he only married Mary in 1856)

If anyone can find any information about them, I'd be very grateful.

Thanks in advance

Liz

[magoo]

Not sure if I can help or not.My ancestor Heinrich or Henry Wintien was a publican of the Prince of Orange until about 1850.There may be a possible family connection.Maybe one of his daughters married a Kisler

[Dave Francis]

1861 Whitechapel (Goodmans Fields) Middlesex
RG9/272 folio 32 page 14

Address: 126 Leman St
Jacob Kisler, head, 26, barman, Germany
Mary do., wife, 21, barwoman, Whitechapel Middx
Margaret do., daur, 18 mo., Whitechapel Middx
Henry Hess, serv, 13, potboy, Bedford

[Dave Francis]

In 1871, the same property (126 Leman Street) was occupied by a licensed victualler so presumably it was a pub.  And in 1881, it appears to have been unoccupied (i.e. house number missed and no family enumerated).

[Dave Francis]

You didn't mention Jacob's parents or the 1851 Census ....

1851 St George in the East (St Mary) Middlesex
HO107/1547 folio 76 page 26

167 Ratcliff Highway
John Kisler, head, 74, beer shop keeper, Germany
Elizabeth do., wife, 50, Germany
Frederick Dittmar, son in law, 28, sugar refiner, Germany
Elizth do., (dittmars) wife, 21, Germany
Jacob Kisler, son, 16, dock foreman, Germany
Catherine Dittmar, daur, 1, St Georges East Middx
Louisa Col*th, visiter, un, 28, servant, Germany
George Hielderland, visitor, un, 32, shoe maker, Germany
Hearman Sadler, visitor, un, 25, black smith, England