Bailey/Martin of Glasgow 1923 ish

[elrowe]

Hi everyone.... Anyone have the Bailey's in their family, I have just found an Oscar Sarel Bailey born Hythe in Kent, was living with his Aunt Sarah Monro in 1891 in St David area of Glasgow.  He married an Agnes Martin on 1st Jan 1908 in Dennistoun, and they had at least 3 children, Sarel born 1910, Martin born 1913 and Sarah Margaret "Queenie" born 1714, all in Glasgo I believe, all help appreciated, regards, Carol

[kr236rk]

Hi,

This is an old post but I have a Kent Sarah Baily who married into the Romany Friend family, her father was my paternal 4th great grandfather James Bailey, Kent (1770-).

I also have a match to Scottish Traveller folk which I wonder if it came down with my Baileys before they settled in Kent, although this is just a guess.

Any information on Romany Baileys of Kent would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks.

[sancti]

Death registration

BAILEY
OSCAR SAREL
66
1934
644/4 1326
Dennistoun

[sancti]

The Scotsman 10 November 1934

Estate valued at £9074

[kr236rk]

Thanks,

Oscar's father comes from Plymouth, Devon, England - the family seems to migrate up to Kent, then to Scotland.

[sancti]

1901 census shows that his aunt and uncle were born Aberdeenshire



Alexander   Monro   Head   Married   Male   53   1848   Traveller Confectionery   Belhelvie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Sara   Monro   Wife   Married   Female   54   1847   -   Boddam, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Oscar S   Bailey   Nephew   Single   Male   33   1868   Traveller Stationery   England

[kr236rk]

Many thanks,

So what was the Kent connection please?

Kind regards.

[MonicaL]

Oscar's birth entry on the GRO site gives his mother's maiden name as SOUTAR:

Mother's Maiden Surname: SOUTAR     
BAILEY, OSCAR  SAREL      
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in ELHAM  Volume 02A  Page 840

You need to check was his aunt Sara's maiden name was. Should be Soutar if relationship of nephew is correct.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Oscar's marriage or death registration should include full details on his parents and help you confirm their names.

Some researchers show his parents as Sarel Eathorne Bailey and Margaret Soutar. Family 1871 census entry here www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF8B-CDW  Margaret Soutar Bailey showing as born in the Isle of Man so no clues there to the Munro couple in Glasgow where Oscar is living in 1891.

I am wondering why there would be a death notice for Oscar in South Africa? www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91W-L931-2?i=69&cc=2517051 He was a stationer (a successful one it seems going by the size of his estate at death). I wonder if he had business interests in SA?

Oscar in Scotland by 1881 where he shows as boarding with John Lyal and wife Agnes in Glasgow.

Monica