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Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« on: Thursday 25 November 04 20:33 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find without success The family of Richard Byrchall of I believe Wilton and any references to Edward, Elizabeth {siblings} and the names of the wives of Edward prior to 1873 I have evidence to suggest that Edward's was married Three times  Does anyone have any information ??? 8)
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Re: Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 November 04 21:22 GMT (UK) »
You could try joining....
http://www.moonrakers.org.uk
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Re: Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 November 04 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Can you give us a bit more info here - what information do you already have e.g. age, birth place, occupation.  This might help in the search.  When was he in Wilton for example.  Might I be able to find him on the 1851 census?  I've already checked the BVRI2 with no luck and there are no entries with that spelling on the 1881 census.  

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Re: Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 November 04 22:07 GMT (UK) »
This looks like Edward in 1871...Can not c any Byrchall (Or similar) in 1851 Wilton or Milton! His age looks like 36 Im not sure but I think it is 56.... no wife present... the only other Byrchall (That Spelling) is Ann a 50 year old widow b Warwick in a lodging house in St Geo Hanover Squ

RG10/155 ED 2 Folio 65 Page 9
17 Upper Wimpole Street
Marylebone
London Middlesex


Head looks like Charlotte A Make(Maike)

BYRCHALL Edward Servant 56 Mar b Milton Wiltshire Butler

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Re: Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 November 04 22:22 GMT (UK) »
presume this is y u think he has been married thrice!
 
 
BEDWIN, Elizabeth 1840 June Marylebone London Middlesex 1 188
BYRCHALL, Edward 1840 June Marylebone London Middlesex 1 188
EDEN, John 1840 June Marylebone London Middlesex 1 188
FEARN, William 1840 June Marylebone London Middlesex 1 188
HOWELL, Mary 1840 June Marylebone London Middlesex 1 188
RAYNER, Sarah 1840 June Marylebone London Middlesex 1 188
SOUTHGATE, Frederick 1840 June Marylebone London Middlesex 1 188
VARCOE, Susanna 1840 June Marylebone London Middlesex 1 188

Number 2 marriage seems strange was his middle name Butler and he was a Butler  ??? how bazaar....Anne on list of Possibles  ???

 
Absolum, Alfred 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Atkins, Anne 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Atkins, Anne 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Budden, Sarah Holloway 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Byrchall, Edward Butler 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Farr, George 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Metcalfe, Emily 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Orme, Francies 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Orme, Francis 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Swabey, Harriet 1851 March St George Hanover Square London Surrey 1 13
Zaller, Henrietta Frances 1851 March St Martin in the Fields London Middlesex 1 13


 
BREIDING, Theresa 1873 March Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex 1a 903
BYRCHALL, Edward 1873 March Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex 1a 903
GOODWIN, George Arthur 1873 March Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex 1a 903
LEONARD, Leonora 1873 March Hampstead Greater London London Middlesex 1a 903

Looks like U could use some ealy census lookups for London...All the best Kris  :D
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Re: Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 November 04 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Dear  Cardiff, Nell  & Kris
                                       Many thanks for your prompt and informative responses
I wish I had had the opportunity to pick your brains 18 months ago. The information you have given me confirms my own research with additions  Edwards 1840 marrage. I will send for a Marriage Certificate to authenticate the information and perhaps extract further info from the document, witnesses etc.
 Ann Byrchall is totally unknown to me but she will be researched, perhaps she is a sister to Edward?
The Budden Marriage is also new to me.  It's interesting  as I have a certificate  for another wedding for Edward Butler Byrchall containing a reference to Edwards occupation as a BUTLER.  The Ladies name in this case is Anne Atkins Married !851  Hanover Square.  I have found no other references to either of these spouses but I will keep looking.
Edwards marriage to Teresa  my great grandmother . She is well documented up to her death.      Edwards daughter Lucy  probably married a Michael Kirby  but  details of the marriage are missing. Eliza, Edwards other daughter is my grandmother.
It is possible infact highly likely that there are other children or he was not the man he appears to have been .     Possibly 5 wives  it's unbelievable
I am left with tracing Richard, Edwards father and the family connection with Wilton
{Milton does not exist  M and W just look similar } Researching !760 to 1870 .
  Richard is stated as farmer  on one of Edwards Marriage certificates
however  the parish church records for Wilton do not contain references 
to a Richard Byrchall.   However the name Edward is mentioned but it is not MY Edward.  The period 1760 to 1870 is of most concern to me.
That's It Friends,       I will look up the Moonraker site Thankyou Cardiff
I hate these nicknames but sadly they are necessary.
Thanks again
                      Himself
Bluff, Byrchall, Bramble, Carey, Kelsey, Brice Stroud Cresswell
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  Breiding, Breiting, Bueghel,.<br /> 
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           Also Gutenburg<br />                  Germany<br />>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Re: Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 November 04 11:07 GMT (UK) »
All sounds absolutely fascinating hope u have some joy with your research but I do have to say my 51 census does list both a Wilton and a Milton in Wiltshire and I could find noone of this name or similar in either  ???  ???  ??? (being an Ozzie I cannot confirm this)but ..........................and I did just have to wonder bout Ann since one of these marriages possible partner is an Anne when we have a Ann as a widow 50 years old in London....She could not be his sister!!! as she is a widow but she could be his sister in law or..................in my mind she could be his wife lying about being a widow  :-X (Did I say That) anyway here r the ref for the 2 parishes in Wiltshire!!!!!

WILTSHIRE 1851 CENSUS

MILTON 1851 CENSUS, Wiltshire,
H.O. 107/1844

WILTON 1851 CENSUS, Wiltshire
Includes Ditchampton, Bulbridge
H.O. 107/1848

certainly appear 2 b 2 separate places to me!!!! 2 diff Piece numbers totally diff names in each parish but alas no Byrchalls in either.....

Hope u r not 2 confused.... Kris ;)
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Re: Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 May 06 10:22 BST (UK) »
here is your man in 1881 with wife theresa from germany-
living at 12 palmerston road,st john hampstead,middlesex in 1881-
edward byrchall 66yrs laundryman born milton wiltshire
theresa 50yrs wife born gutenburg f,germany
eliza 11yrs daughter born middlesex
lucy 9yrs daughter born middlesex
SOURCE INFO-RG11-171
FOLIO-44
PAGE-24
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Re: Byrchall Family of Wiltshire
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 May 06 10:49 BST (UK) »
 :-\ hmmmmmmmmmm ive found this lady in 1861 maybe a sister for edward?
living in kensington town middlesex
elizabeth byrchall  44yrs unmarried housekepper born milton wiltshire
head of household a william hine 71yrs widow solicitor.
SOURCE INFO-RG9-19
FOLIO-24
PAGE-1
regards
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney