Gibson search

[suzi600]

hi Patrish

  The Joseph Gibson I am after lived with his mother ( Sarah Gibson born c, 1800 Leeds ) Sarah Mason wed 1835 to Thomas Mason  and their daughter Ann at Bevis Green Bury in 1841 census. he was born in county and worked in cotton factory

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[suzi600]

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Joseph Richard Gibson wed Margaret Allen ,  from Richmond , Yorks 1848 at the Cathedral and parish church Manchester . His father was James Gibson (a joiner) living in Dolefield ,Manchester . her father was John Allen a carter also in Dolefield
Joseph Richard died the next year 1849

[rosie99]

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Joseph Richard Gibson wed Margaret Allen ,  from Richmond , Yorks 1848 at the Cathedral and parish church Manchester . His father was James Gibson (a joiner) living in Dolefield ,Manchester . her father was John Allen a carter also in Dolefield
Joseph Richard died the next year 1849

Josephs occupation on that marriage was 'Groom'.   It does not give a place of residence for his father or Margarets - Dolefield is the residence of both Joseph and Margaret

Witnesses were Harriet Blackwell (Blackwall) and William Lingard

[rosie99]

A daughter   
GIBSON, JANE       mmn ALLEN 
GRO Reference: 1850  March Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 20  Page 551

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There is a baptism for a Sarah ANN Gibson born 3 January 1850 bapt 3 Feb 1850 with parents Joseph & Margaret at Manchester - Fathers occupation Groom



 

[Annette7]

Bingo S            I think this is them, a bad census to read. not sure about some of the info. . His daughter Sarah Jane could give a link to the Joseph I found on the IGI, his mother was Sarah.


1851 HO107/2231/320/19

Living  ?  St, Newton, Lancashire

Joseph Gibson 31 Mechanic B. Salford
Eliza wife 29  ?? B . Derbyshire
Emma dau 3 b Manchester
Sarah Jane dau 1 b Newton.

(Although wife shown as Eliza in 1851 she is Elizabeth in 1861 which is correct).

If this is your family the GRO's own birth index shows that the maiden name of the mother of both Emma and Sarah Jane is Marples.

Joseph Gibson, mechanic, of 2 Marland Street, son of Charles Gibson, mechanic, married Elizabeth Marples, of 29 Watson Street, dau. of John Marples, confectioner on 16/4/1843 Manchester (Cathedral).

In 1841 Joseph Gibson 20, mechanic, is in Manchester living with a James Greenhouse and family.

Joseph Gibson b.23/7/1819, bp.12/1/1823 Manchester, St. Mary, Mulberry St. (Roman Catholic) son of Charles Gibson and Elizabeth Cowkwell. Three siblings also baptised same day:

Elizabeth born 18/2/1815
John born 2/1/1817
Mary Ann born 18/11/1822

A Charles Gibson bc.1780 buried 13/7/1841 Manchester Cathedral which could possibly be the father.

Annette

[suzi600]

Thanks for your replys Rosie99 and Annette . I assumed they would both be living with their Parents but the mechanic is deffinately not the one . I found Margaret with Sarah Jane I think with a sister around Deansgate but sadly Margaret was dead after the census of 1851. Sarah jane went to live with Grannie in Bury  1861. Again thank you both.

[Annette7]

Bingo S            I think this is them, a bad census to read. not sure about some of the info. . His daughter Sarah Jane could give a link to the Joseph I found on the IGI, his mother was Sarah.


1851 HO107/2231/320/19

Living  ?  St, Newton, Lancashire

Joseph Gibson 31 Mechanic B. Salford
Eliza wife 29  ?? B . Derbyshire
Emma dau 3 b Manchester
Sarah Jane dau 1 b Newton.

(Although wife shown as Eliza in 1851 she is Elizabeth in 1861 which is correct).

If this is your family the GRO's own birth index shows that the maiden name of the mother of both Emma and Sarah Jane is Marples.

Joseph Gibson, mechanic, of 2 Marland Street, son of Charles Gibson, mechanic, married Elizabeth Marples, of 29 Watson Street, dau. of John Marples, confectioner on 16/4/1843 Manchester (Cathedral).

In 1841 Joseph Gibson 20, mechanic, is in Manchester living with a James Greenhouse and family.

Joseph Gibson b.23/7/1819, bp.12/1/1823 Manchester, St. Mary, Mulberry St. (Roman Catholic) son of Charles Gibson and Elizabeth Cowkwell. Three siblings also baptised same day:

Elizabeth born 18/2/1815
John born 2/1/1817
Mary Ann born 18/11/1822

A Charles Gibson bc.1780 buried 13/7/1841 Manchester Cathedral which could possibly be the father.

Annette

Ignore all of this - did some more checking and Sarah Jane Gibson, dau. of the above, married a James Howard 20/5/1872 St. Philip, Manchester.   Clearly shows her father was Joseph Gibson, mechanic.

So, we go back to 1861 census where Sarah Jane Gibson, 11, is with her grandmother Sarah Mason, widow bc.1800 Leeds.  When Sarah Gibson married Thomas Mason she was a spinster.

I don't believe she is the daughter of Joseph Richard Gibson and Margaret Allen (marr.1848) as their daughter was Sarah Ann, according to her baptism.  JRG states father a James Gibson, joiner.

Things just don't seem to add up.  What information is on the marriage certificate when she married John Pollard?   Doesn't seem to be online.

Annette

[suzi600]

Hi Annette , tried posting a pic of the Marriage Cert but to no avail  so

Reg Dis. Bury
Christ Church in the parish of Walmersley
John pollard  24   Batchelor   Weaver   Walmersley(Rowlands)      John Pollard         Forman

Sarah Jane    23   Spinster    Weaver   Walmersley(Bevis Green)  Joseph Richard      Grocer
Gibson                                                                                     Gibson

[suzi600]

Annette , I  have assumed Sarah wed James Gibson and had Joseph Richard . James has died and Sarah went on to wed Thomas Mason .

I do have a similar case and on the wedding cert the maiden and late name is written