MARTINS in cork 1850s/60s Mystery

[Dmartin]

Looking for help regarding my G G/F x 3.  JOHN MARTIN  born abt 1818 Erith, Kent.  He married Emily Buckhurst b1823 ,The marriage was at Chislehurst , Kent. Dec qtr 1844.  I can find them living in Kent ,UK.  In 1851 census, but they then dissappear. His wife Emily died in Cork 5th June 1865  aged 42, but Interned back in Erith,Kent.  So looks like they were living in Cork . They had 3 children in the 1851 census Charles abt 1846, Emily abt 1847, William 1849 all born Erih,Kent. JOHN MARTIN was a Farmer in Kent, 118 acres employing 5 men. JOHN MARTIN reappears in Kent in 1881 and 1891 where he died in 1893.  Can anyone think why they came to CORK ?. I do not know who JOHN parents were. Maybe they were form from Cork. Were they any Landowners/ farmers named MARTIN in Cork Area?.  A elderly relative did some inconclusive research, he seems to remember Place names in CORK, Sheermount Lyre Seat possibly nr Ballincollig?

Longshot i know but if anyone has any ideas or advice/info please  get in touch

[mazzm]

You could be looking for Freemount in Co. Cork.  There is also a village of Lyre which is near Nadd in Co. Cork and both of these places might be considered near Ballingcollig, Blarney and Donoughmore.

[Dmartin]

Only just seen your reply, Thanks for your help

[Dmartin]

Update .I have now found the place,sorry for misleading you . It is Grand Parade Greenmount,Cork

[shanew147]

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Looking for help regarding my G G/F x 3.  JOHN MARTIN  born abt 1818 Erith, Kent.  He married Emily Buckhurst b1823 ,The marriage was at Chislehurst , Kent. Dec qtr 1844. 
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I do not know who JOHN parents were.
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have you a marriage record for John and Emily ?

A cert should give you name and occupations of their fathers, so you could then search for possible baptisms for them. Also should show John's occupation which might help with why he moved to Cork..



Shane

[Dmartin]

Update  Yes I've got the marriage cert.  John Martin was a farmer . John named other people on his will in 1894 back in Erith ,Kent . Agnes H Clements c1860 who would think is his daughter and John Ebenezer Martin who could be another son although there is no birth records for them in Kent , so presume they might of born Ireland. I have found both parents for John & Emily but no Irish connection.
 Irish census 1901 Agnes H Clements 38 Grand Parade Greenmount Cork.
  Where should I look for Irish birth records for John Ebenezer Martin and Agnes H Clements c1860 or a marriage record for Agnes ? John Ebenezer was back in Erith at the time of John seniors will in 1894 .
 Thanks for any help/advice, hope i've not made it too confusing !

[shanew147]

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Where should I look for Irish birth records for John Ebenezer Martin and Agnes H Clements c1860 .....

Registration of births started in Ireland in 1864 - so you would need to check for church records for possible baptisms of John and Agnes. What denomination were your Martin family ?

see :  Introduction to Irish Records




Shane

[shanew147]

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Agnes H Clements c1860 who would think is his daughter ....no birth records for them in Kent , so presume they might of born Ireland.
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 Irish census 1901 Agnes H Clements 38 Grand Parade Greenmount Cork.
  Where should I look for ....a marriage record for Agnes ?
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This looks like your Agnes in 1901 - but she's born in England ?

   Clement / Allford / Connor household
   
Have you found Agnes in 1911 in Ireland - what's her husbands name ?



Shane

[shanew147]

possible marriage for Agnes for the BMD Index on FamilySearch ...

  Name: Agnes Hester Martin
  Registration district: Cork
  Event type: Marriage
  Quarter and year: Jul-Sep 1885
  Volume: 5 / Page: 61

this matches with an entry for a Charles John Clements - i.e. same reference details.

see :  Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
         Details included on a Marriage Cert


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