Kent look ups Henry Swan birth

[Barbara F]

Right - then I may have found the Swan family in 1841 in Bredgar.

Samuel Swan 55 Ag lab
Jane 50
Henry 13
Mary Ann 8
All born in county

Will check for them in 1851 but I think Henry is not at home. Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate?

Barbara

[Barbara F]

In 1851 Henry is at Church Farm Stockbury in the household of the farmer Henry Bing.

Henry Swan Servant 18 Farm labourer b Kent Bredgar

Samuel and Jane are still in Bredgar

Silver Street, Bredgar
Samuel Swan Head Mar 67 Labr on Roads b Kent Bredgar
Jane Wife Mar 60 b Kent
Richd Son Unm 41 Farm Labr b Kent Bobbing
Edward Son Unm 25 Farm Labr b Kent Bredgar
Bredgar and Stockbury are neighbouring parishes.

Barbara

Edit.  Sorry missed Jane's birthplace of Stockbury.  Samuel and Jane are still in Bredgar in 1861. There is a note which loks as though by now samuel is deaf and blind.

[sillgen]

In 1851 there is an Ann Golding age 22 a visitor with the Head of Household Ann Golding age 83 - at least I think it could be - at Newington, Milton   I did not note the reference as I then went on to look at 1841.
 Checking that family in 1841 we have
Ann Golding 72 Farmer
Ann Golding 17
Hezekiah Spittle 50 farmer (he is son in law in 1851)
William Golding 20
Edmund Golding 11  all b in County
HO107/475/2 F6 p5
Assuming that the youngsters must be grandchildren then there is a possibility that there was an Edmund son of the older Ann (and even husband) who has died.
Worth a look anyway.
Andrea

[sillgen]

1851 HO107 1627 F351 p20 Newington
Ann Golding wid Hd farmer of 140 acres emp 9? lab b Newington
Hezekiah Spittle son in law wid 60 Farm bailiff b Borden
Sarah Golding son's widow 55? serv b Halstow
Ann Golding single visitor 22 serv b Newington
Edward Pepper serv single 20 farm servant b Bobbing

If you look at the IGI on familysearch there are a couple of Golding marriages and one is for Edmund to Sarah Ellis in 1828.  Another is Jonathan to Martha and they turn up in later census too. Agian, worth a look.
Ages for Ann are not quite working out but they were often wrong.
Andrea

[sillgen]

And here is the Tuff connection. 
Marriage Ann Tuff to Thomas Golding 12 Nov 1788 Newington
IGI batch number M019686

If we assume that this is the Ann who is still alive in 1841 and 1851 then you need to look for a death of husband Thomas.  I wonder if he left a will?
Andrea

[quirk_cantwell]

Good morning. You 2 have been very busy while I've slept. Great sleuthing and many thanks. The witnesses at the wedding for Henry and Ann were Hezekiah Golding and Augusta Caroline Eclipse Golding. I have found them as brother and sister in Bobbing ,Kent with dad Hezekiah Golden and Susan Ann (mother) I think Ann also had a brother Hezekiah as I found a Hezekiah Tuff Golding b abt 1836 (no details) an Free ancestry.com The ages are confusing as Ann said she was 28 on the boat so b abt 1828.
Also on the boat was Edward Swan b abt 1826 and Richard b abt 1811. I did find a Henry Swan b 23/12/1827 with mother Jane(Clark) on a Public member family tree entry. This could be him if you think his father Samuel married a Jane?
Shauna

[quirk_cantwell]

My last reply was rushed as I was on my way to work. The Swan Family you found seems to be correct . Well done. You both are pros at this. I'm a little bit confused with the Golding Family however, especially with the Hezekiahs.
Shauna

[sillgen]

The Goldings need a bit more sleuthing.  Hezekiah Spittle died early in 1861 - before the census.  He is the son of Charles and Elizabeth Spittle and marries Ann Page Golding in 1815 - see www.familysearch.org     She dies in 1838.   That makes Ann Page Golding the daughter of the Ann found in the 1841 and 51 census.   
Hezekiah Golding born c1801 appears in several census and his son, who is Hezekiah Tuff Golding, is in several census years too.  He marries at least twice.  Once to Frances Hughes in 1858 then in 1861 he is a widower but by 1871 married to Emily.  Augusta is also widowed young.
I don't think HTG is Ann's brother but a cousin.  However you would need to get certificates to prove this.
They are obviously all connected but you need to be sure of the various relationships.     If you can get the film of the parish records to search at your nearest LDS centre then it might be very helpful.
I belive there may be marriage transcripts for Kent so it might be worth asking for a look up on  them.   Have look at www.genuki.com and see what they list.
There is another Hezekiah Golding living in Cambridgeshire - as it is an unusual name you may find they link up further back.
Andrea

[Barbara F]

Hello Andrea and Shauna
The Richard and Edward on the boat tie up with the 2 sons I found in the 1851 census living with Samuel and Jane.
Ooops - have just seen you have posted again. Will read and help out if possible.
Barbara