Who is clever enough to answer this

[Mr. MIGKY]

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migky

[Peter Shearan]

Sunnydays
I think you are still under a misapprehension about "Social Services". There was no such thing in pre-war days - and the title is one only used in quite modern times. In any case their records would only have been started after the war, and I doubt if they have an archive. Even if they have, the rule about any such records are very strict - it is only after 100 years that they are allowed to be seen. Fostering is only now being more strictly controlled, and in prewar days it would hve been quite hit-and miss: all such things were in the hands of voluntary organisations, since it was not thought proper for either local or national government to interfere in such personal things. Quite different from 2007!

Peter

[Johnbeddows]

You can always try
http://www.genealogy-guide.org.uk/adoption.html
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/adoptions/

Try Fostering/Adoption team at Manchester City Council Social Services

[Sunnydays]

Hi Peter

Thanks for your reply, sorry for the delay, but we were down on our internet for over a week.

Kind Regards
Sunnydays

[Jackie464]

Pre 1978 it was the Children's Department, and no records for children in care were kept.  They held on to them till they child reached 21 years and then without a word they were disposed of.

Children who were placed in care post 1978 - their records have to be kept.

However institutions such as Barnados, religiously funded ones and charity funded ones usually kept their records.  I was 'in care' and so was unlucky - the authority don't know know that ever existed in their care (12 years).
 
My older half sisters were placed in a Nazareth House and their records are secure - but not very informative. 

My husband's father was brought up in Barnado's from 1909 to 1925 and we got marvellous and extensive information from them including photographs, not just of him but his brother too.

I guess its the luck of the draw!  Jackie

[Mr. MIGKY]

You say she was born at st. Mary's ? well this place was right next door or part of the same building back in 1929 on High street Chorlton-on-medlock, so could be something to do with her?
I have looked this up once before , for "Liverpool Annie" might be worth asking her if she got any where with it?
Migky


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[casalguidi]

Pre 1978 it was the Children's Department, and no records for children in care were kept.  They held on to them till they child reached 21 years and then without a word they were disposed of.

I have only just noticed this and have to say that I disagree.  My late father in law and his brothers were placed into the care of the Greater London County Council in the 1940s when they were orphaned and records do exist.  We were not allowed to view them (still closed) but were sent a summary of father in law's time in care.  How this summary compared to the orginal records I don't know but it read something like:

Reason and date of admission to one home
Date of removal to another "school"
Recommended for the "Child Emmigration" scheme
Fostered

Casalguidi

[Mr. MIGKY]

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Migky

[LizzieW]

Slightly off topic, but there was a man on Radio 4 this morning who had been in orphanages as a child.  He said that whenever children made friends with each other, one of them would be moved on, which sounds awful, so the children never settled anywhere.  He had a friend when she was 9 and he was 7 and they got separated.  Years later, when both had been married and either divorced or widowed, they met again accidentally and have been together ever since.  Aaah.

Liz