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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 20 May 12 21:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary,

Small world indeed! That is great  :D  I never thought I'd get this close to Inchigaggin  :)

Abraham Haynes might be a relative.  There seem to have been several Haynes families baptising and marrying  around the same time (early-mid 1800s) and I noted that Abraham and others are witnesses for each others' events in the registers.  Abraham is a name that comes down through my own Haynes line so it's possible there is a connection, although I've yet to prove it.

I would love it if you could keep an eye out for any other Haynes stones you might come across - and if there are any photos of Inchigaggin knocking around, I would love to have one  :)

Thanks so much for all your help and local knowledge!

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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 20 May 12 22:19 BST (UK) »
 Inchigaggin is a  small townland  area around Model Farm Road,

There is a lane known as Cait Shea's lane with just a few houses.


I don't have any photos of the area but east to take a few,

Will let you know when I have a few to hand

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Bradfield, Buckley, Capels,Cronin, Desmond, Leonard, Lombard,Mullins, O'Brien,

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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 23:05 BST (UK) »
Cáit Shea's was where Rossa Avenue is now, Inchigaggin was known as Corcoran's Lane. The best way to view it is to log onto Google Earth & put Inchigaggin Lane, Carrigrohane into the search box. You can travel from one end of the lane to the other, although there are quite a few new houses built there now and the old cottages are mostly gone.
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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 23:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks agho, I will do just that :)


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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 10 June 12 20:25 BST (UK) »
Hi PruM,
I did go to Inchigagan lane but couldn't park as the traffice was
very busy.  So I will have to walk the next time.

In the meantime I had a look at Rosemary Ffolliot's index ( newspaper
index from 1780's- 1830's) and found a few references to Haynes of
Inchigaggin.  Some marriages and some deaths but no mention of
where buried.  Just a few details here but if you want me to send you the long list send me  a PM with your email and I can scan all the
entries to you.

Marriage-  From The Constitution newspaper Wed 9th June 1824
On Saturday morning at Glanmire church by the Rev Dr Coughlan,
Michael Haynes Esq. of this City to Ellen dau of William Haynes of Inchigaggin Esq.

Marriage The Constitution 16 July 1825 at Kilflynin ( poss Kilflynn)
church by the Rev. Mr. Walsh, William Haynes Esq., of Inchigaggin near
this City to Mary eldest daughter of William Bleazby Esq of this Ciity.

Death - Cork Advertiser 3rd April 1813 On Wednesday morning at her
lodgings near Wandesford Bridge,Mrs Haynes wife of William Haynes Esq. of Carrigrohane.

Marriage Cork Mercantile Chronicle -M  28 Nov 1803 yesterday at
Carrigrohane church by the Rev Nicholas Dunscombe, Mr Garret Nugent of the Grand Parade, Hatter, to Miss Ellen Haynes, of Ballinveltig in the South Liberties of this City.
( This Ellen was a daughter of Abraham Haynes, her mother Mary wife of Abraham died 31 Dec 1823) Ballinveltig is quite near Inchigaggin as it
quite a large area and is located in several townlands  eg Ballinveltig Carrigrohane, Ballinveltig Curraheen, Ballinveltig Bishopstown, so they
may well have been connected to the Haynes of Inchigaggin!!!

http://ballincollig.wordpress.com/churches/   According to Margaret Jordan's website  there was a Catholic church at Clash ( which is in Carrigrohane) until 1808 nothing remains of it today.

There is also a very small cemetery at Kilnaglory near Ovens , another possiblity.

My feeling is that the Haynes were Church of Ireland and maybe married Catherine Daly a Catholic.  Just a hunch because all those marriages seem to be in Church of Ireland churches.

Hope this is some help to you

Mary
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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 10 June 12 22:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary,

That is all fantastic info, thank you so much :)  I will PM you with an email address for the longer list.

The parents of the John Haynes who married Margaret Daly were both Catholic but whether the rest of the family was I don't know...certainly anything seemed to go once they were in Australia.  Some of them remained Catholic but others (my line!) did their own thing!

I do so appreciate you taking the time and effort to find all this out for me, and for attempting at least to get some pics of Inchigaggan Lane - I hope the traffic is kinder next time you try!

Best wishes
Prue

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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 03 October 12 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi PrueM,

I know this thread is a few months old, but I may be able to help you out. I've had enough people help me out on Roots chat, so it's about time I gave back!

I live and work close to the areas that you speak of in your thread. If you identify a graveyard that you think your ancestors might be buried in, let me know where it is and the names of the headstones to look for and I'll see what I can do.

I could drop up to Curraghkippaune cemetary some day during my lunch hour if you like and maybe take some pictures of headstones.

Thanks

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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 03 October 12 21:38 BST (UK) »
Hi dhaskett :)

That is very kind of you, thank you!
I'm not sure who, if any, of my Haynes family are buried in that area.  Potentially it would be an earlier generation than I have so far been able to trace.  I have been in email correspondence with "celtic liberty" who posted on this topic, and one thing I wrote to her was:

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Your question about Inchigaggin prompted me to go back and check some very old notes I have from a Haynes cousin, who had access to lots of old family documents and put together a "potted history" of the early days of the family in Australia and its origins in Cork.  In my mind, over the years, the story became confused... the family did not definitely come from Inchigaggin.  In the very early 1900s, there was some correspondence between "our lot" and some Hayneses in the USA and England about possible connections between us and the Inchigaggin Hayneses, but it looks like the issue was never resolved.

So, I thank you very sincerely for being so kind as to offer to photograph graves, but I can't actually pinpoint any for you to photograph  ;D

However, there is still a possibility that the Cork Hayneses and the Inchigaggin Hayneses were related, so if you are every wandering the graveyards with your camera and happen across a Haynes headstone, a photograph of same would be very gratefully received  :)

Thanks so much, once again, for your generous offer  :D

Prue


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Re: Graveyards around Carrigrohane/Ballincollig
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 04 October 12 08:12 BST (UK) »
No problem, glad to be of help. My car is being serviced at the moment, so it will be next week at the earliest before I can take a look at any graveyards. I'll take a look first at Curraghkippaune cemetary to see what I can find. If I locate any Haynes headstones, I'll get back to you.