CHEWs around 1700: my brick wall

[KNIBBetc]

Well, all fits with the accepted scenario. If the records or book do cast more light on the issue of Lucy's birth, please advise idc.

Alan

[Geoff Chew]

I'll certainly try to see whether William BELLAMY and Lucy KNIBB might have been brother and sister, though I'm pretty sure John Coales's book won't tell us that. Incidentally, there are no other KNIBB connections with my CHEW family that I know of.

Geoff

[KNIBBetc]

Nope.  I'm suggesting that Lucy first married a BELLAMY and then John KNIBB as she married as a widow.  Or perhaps my info is faulty.

Alan

[Geoff Chew]

I meant Lucy junior...

Geoff

[KNIBBetc]

Yep, I got there but too late!

Alan

[Geoff Chew]

Nothing relevant or helpful in John Coales's book.  We'll see what the Polebrook registers have to offer. Geoff

[Geoff Chew]

I've asked another of the Chew clan who has the Polebrook registers on fiche to check this out, and this is what she says:

William BELLAMY (d. 1778) married Lucy ROWELL; they had 4 known children, including another William BELLAMY d. 1773; the last was Adam BELLAMY, b. 1778.

Lucy BELLAMY nee ROWELL married John KNIBB, 17 Apr 1785.
They had 2 known children, including Lucy KNIBB [who later married Josrph CHEW], baptized 1786 as we know. Maybe Lucy junior was born before the marriage of John and Lucy senior, but my informant thinks the newspaper got the age of Lucy senior wrong:

Lucy CHEW nee KNIBB was buried 16 November 1826 [as we know] but aged 40, which ties in precisely with the date of baptism.

The William BELLAMY b. 1773 was probably the William BELLAMY who married Rebecca CHEW (b. 1775, sister of Joseph CHEW mentioned above), 24 April 1799.

That would make William BELLAMY and Lucy KNIBB half-brother and half-sister, not full brother and sister, and would also mean that Lucy was really born a KNIBB and not a BELLAMY.

Now my informant wants to know a bit more about John KNIBB!  Can you oblige? 

Geoff

[KNIBBetc]

Thank you very much.  Very helpful.

Please can we just clear up a couple of points.  I had been given the date of the John KNIBB / Lucy BELLAMY nee ROWELL marriage as 13 Nov 1785.  Is that definitely wrong? - seems strange that different specific dates quoted.  Also is date of her marriage to William BELLAMY available and both their baptisms?

I have conjectured that John KNIBB was the one bp26 Apr 1758 at Polebrook as KNIBBS to Thomas and Alice BAILEY nee HUNT (she a widow at marriage), the first of 10 children born to the couple.  If the same, this John was a farmer/yeoman of Armston who died 15 Jul 1825 unless that is the date that Adam KNIBB, his miller brother of Barnwell, was sworn in as his executor (as opposed to the date he swore that John actually died).  Perhaps a burial record exists that would resolve.  The Will was dated 29 March 1825 and Elizabeth BELLAMY, John's housekeeper was bequeathed the house and an annuity, his wife Lucy having presumably died beforehand.

He named his daughter Lucy CHEW in the Will so we can be sure that the testator is the one who married Lucy BELLAMY nee ROWELL.  His son Thomas KNIBB b Armston bp25 Feb 1788 Polebrook must have died as Lucy was said to be his only child.  She was to die the following year according to what we now know.

Perhaps best to contact me direct at jackari2@aol.com if more KNIBB info required.

Alan

[seahall]

Hi Geoff/Alan

Looked at the original marriage entry.

Polebrook Parish Church

Pg 19 No 65 13th Nov 1785 by Lic

John Knibb of the Hamlet of Armston in this Parish Bachelor and
Lucy Bellamy of the same place Widow.

Both signed their names.

Witnesses: John Rowell and William Hanson

Cheers Sandy