CARVER Ramblings

[Easby Carver]

I was in Belgium last year and I photographed the memorial inscription to A.Carver on the Menin Gate in Ieper (Ypres).

Neil.

[Nick Carver]

Neil

That is undoubtedly Arthur Carver, my great uncle. Thanks very much for the photo

Nick

[janan]

Hi Neil

Nice to hear from you again. Have copied
and pasted your musings - difficult to read
 here due to widescreen. Will be back later with
 my gun if necessary

Jan

[bedfordshire boy]

Re the Everton John Carver - pure speculation!

A2A has the following under BLARS
Administration Letters
F 110� - date: 1760
William Carver of Dunton

Who's he? Could he be connected with John of Everton -
father perhaps? (incidentally there are no Carver entries in
Everton pre 1812). The first Carver burial in Dunton was in
1748, and a burial of William on 8 Aug 1759. It would be
interesting to get hold of the Blars Administration Letter to
see if a son John is named. Was John actually from Dunton
and was merely working in Everton?


Up to 1677 there were numerous Carver burials in Potton. It
 might be worth investigating what became of this branch of the family.
The name Peter Carver appears more than once
 in Potton. John and Mary in Dunton also named a son
 Peter....

What about John Carver who married Mary Clerk in Stotfold
(5 miles from Dunton) on 1 Feb 1718/19? They were
described as travellers - could they have been the parents of
 John?



David

It might have been interesting putting all those photos side
by side, but it ain't half made a mess of the layout.

Virtually illegible - unless you keep hitting "enter" at the end
of a normal line length as I've done with this message
 the line just goes on and on to the end of the 5 photos.

Too difficult to read! Sorry

[janan]

Hi

Fingers crossed this will start a new page

I'm favouring the John 'of Everton' who married
Mary to be son of William of Dunton buried 1759.
 I have the will that goes with the admin letters
you mention David - William does have a son John
(and Peter) and there are also burials in Dunton
for what appears to be John and his wife Mary

Sep 4 1768 Mary w of Jn CALVER
Jul 14 1772 Jn CARVER/CALVER labr

I have tracked the Potton lot and they appear
 to move to Dunton via Sutton - or at least Peter
 (who is I am pretty sure father of William of Dunton) does.

Potton baptism
1644 Jan 29 Peter s of Wm CARVER

Sutton marriage
Peter CARVILL to Joan RUSSELL 6 Oct 1681
Sutton Baptism
9/10/1682 Wm s of Peter/Joan Carver

Dunton burial
1727 Jan 11 Peter CALVER (Shepherd)

Seem to be missing a burial for Joan wife of Peter.


But then you come up with this  David

"What about John Carver who married Mary Clerk in Stotfold
(5 miles from Dunton) on 1 Feb 1718/19? They were
described as travellers - could they have been the parents of
John?"

Goodness knows where they fit in!

Jan

[janan]

William Carver 'of Bassingbourn' who married
Elizabeth Bird I am pretty sure is the William baptised

11 DEC 1783 Cockayne Hatley son of John and Elizabeth
(Merrington) brother of George and Young.

There is a likely burial for Elizabeth in Wrestlingworth
31/7/1809 Eliz Carver


Certainly he is the one who married Hannah Pateman
in Arrington 28 Mar 1820 - he was 'of Wimpole' at that time.
Unfortunately it doesn't give condition at marriage. He may
have squeezed in another marriage between Elizabeth and
Hannah to a mystery Sarah in Cambs - details not to hand at moment.

Jan

[Chris Carver]

Hi Neil,

Not so far fetched as it resembles almost exactly the tree I have sketched out.  One addition is that I have a marriage for Deacon Thomas to Mary Bromidge at Turvey on 19 Apr 1720 and they settled in Southill in 1720.

All I have to do is find a son called Samuel from Hitchin wheelwright Samuel's first marriage tp prove the connections!

Regards

Chris

[Easby Carver]

Hi Chris,

Although there were four children (Thomas  John, Elizabeth and Mary) baptised in one go by Samuel and Mary Prior in 1768 - do we actually know if these were children from Samuel's first marriage or his second marriage, or a mixture of both?   I am making the assumption that we have just the one Samuel here. 

Also, just a thought, the Hitchin Samuel was SAMUEL THOMAS CARVER as referred to in the apprentice record.    Could it be that the son of Hitchin Samuel was also given the names of SAMUEL THOMAS but known just as THOMAS?   It's interesting that we have no son named after his father here...Jan -  the list of the four children - is this in an order at all, i.e. oldest first?

Cheers, Neil.

[janan]

Hi Neil

Here is a link to the Herts board which gives some extra on the Hitchen Carvers

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,229232.0.html

Also there are two replies from me and one from bedfordshire boy at end of pg 10 on this thread  which you may have missed.

Jan