CARVER Ramblings

[MaggieLou915]

I see it now.  Thanks for the correction.

Marg

[Nick Carver]

Thought you might be interested in this.  A friend called me up and said that she had seen me on TV the other evening. I hasten to add that she knows me very well indeed. Puzzled, I managed to find out that she had seen Nick Carver, Chief Exec of the Lister Hospital in Stevenage. I found a picture of him on the web site but couldn't see the resemblence myself. However, as somebody else had also seen the story in question and also thought it was me, perhaps there is a strong resemblence which leads me to wonder if that is coincidence or because we are related in some way.

All this is relevant because of my musings about trying to see if a strong physical resemblence between different arms of the Carver family might indicate a genetic link in an earlier generation. Now, all I need to do is to find out something about the history of my namesake. I will try an e-mail and let you all know what transpires (usual reaction is no response at all).

[janan]

Hope he gets back to you and knows something about his ancestors
Jan

More interesting census facts

There are no Carvers in Hertfordshire in 1841
All Cambridgeshire Carvers in 1841 are descendants of Bedfordshire Carvers

[MaggieLou915]

I am trying to put people together into my files and I am having a problem with James Carver and Sophia and their children Amos and Jabez.  On the 1841 census James was 30, Sophia was 25, Amos was 9 and Jabez was 4, all born in Wrestlingworth.  Who were his parents?

The only James I have is the James who married Alice Handley. His parents were Young Carver and Mercy Bird.

I had many of the families together as groups from information on the IGI but I wasn't able to put them together in the overall picture.  Neil provided me with a lot of information which helps tie in some of the groups I have and leaves questions with others.

Any help is appreciated.

Marg

[janan]

Hmm tis another puzzle  James born circa 1807 consistently gives his birthplace as Wrestlingworth on 51 to 71 censuses but doesn't appear on the IGI or in the parish register transcriptions given by waterfull earlier in the thread. I have no idea who he belongs to I'm afraid.

There is also the case of the missing Simeon son of John who I haven't as yet married or killed off. He isn't on the IGI either but is on the transcripts.

At the moment I'm still trying to track down who our John belongs to - am awaiting some wills which fingers crossed may throw some light on the subject. Will post details once I have them.

Jan

[Chris Carver]

Hi,

I have been introduced to this site by the lady who has been in contact with Jan as well as knowing Beverley (Aussie Carver), who are both related to me, albeit distantly.

I have a skeleton tree that links my London Carvers to both the Southill and Melbourn Cambs Carvers, although the Southill link has to be definitely proved.  I will go through all the info posted earlier to see if it fits with my suppositions.

Interestingly some of my London Carvers migrated to W Yorks, where I was born, Lincs and Newcastle on Tyne at the turn of the last century.  I wonder if this was because of family links.

Another branch also moved to Ickleton in Cambs.

Anyway, I will put some outline info on here idc, but be aware that I will be extremely busy with hols and moving house in the next 2/3 months.

Chris Carver

[janan]

Hi Chris
Nice to see you here It is getting quite a gathering of the clan.
That's very interesting about your London Carvers migrating to west Yorks - whereabouts?
Jan

[Chris Carver]

Hi Jan,

The first record of a Yorkshire connection is in Sheffield in 1911 when my grandfather married a local lass.  He was in the Navy at the time, so why he was visiting Sheffield is a mystery, although he could have been visiting an uncle (mother's brother) who moved to Sheffield at an unknown date but had lived in Hull (child birth c 1898) and York (1901 census).  Another of my grandfather's brothers lived in Sheffield from an indeterminate date, although he married in Grimsby Lincs c 1912, where my GGrandmother and her daughter are buried (1940 ish).  So many mysteries!

Chris

[janan]

Hi everyone


There is an 1806 baptism in Wrestlingworth for an Ann Carver parents Thomas and Elizabeth (the only non descendant of my John and Elizabeth on the Wrestlingworth registers)
The only Thomas Carver to Elizabeth marriages I
have unearthed are in Bedford one to Elizabeth Grummit in 1780 and the
other to Elizabeth Patston in 1786

CARVER Thomas of Wellingborough, baker Eliz GRUMMIT otp 21 April 1780 at Bedford St. Peter, Beds witnesses Elizabeth Patston Mary Bayes

CARVER Thomas of Parish of Bedford St Peter Widower to Elizabeth PATSTON otp 7 Nov 1786 at Bedford St Paul
Witnesses Catherine Patston Abraham Patston Sophia Crump

Baptisms for children can be found on the IGI at familysearch.org If you enter just parents Thomas Carver and Elizabeth and Bedfordshire they are the only children who pop up.

Burials
One of below must be first wife, one probably a child
Elizabeth CARVER 23 Dec 1784 Bedford St Peter
Elizabeth CARVER 20 May 1785 Bedford St Peter

Thomas CARVER 1 May 1809 Age 50 Bedford St Peter
Elizabeth CARVER 31 Aug 1809 Age 49 Bedford St Peter

Burials for some of the children all at Bedford St Peter
Catherine CARVER 27 Oct 1795 inf
Abraham CARVER 8 Sep 1818 Age 31
Elizabeth CARVER 13 Oct 1832 Age 45 

I did order Ann's second marriage certificate but she did not give her father's name so they didn't send - at some point I will get copies of original entries for her baptism and both marriages in case there is anything enlightening.

I have the wills for both Thomas, Elizabeth and daughter Elizabeth. They do not mention Ann. But do confirm Thomas who married Elizabeth Grummit and Thomas who married Elizabeth Patston as one and the same person. Daughter Elizabeth's adds weight to Thomas of Wellingborough being son of John the minister as she mentions William Crole Carver of Melbourn as beneficiary should her sister Rebecca Ann Stonebride(Stockbridge) of Meldreth and her children die before her.

I do wonder if Ann could have been illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth born, baptised and brought up in Wrestlingworth where there were family connections - no proof as yet


Regards Jan