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Offline janan

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Re: CARVER Ramblings
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 01 February 07 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi David
Thank you for your thoughts on this one. I agree there are holes in the puzzle.

The original entries for John's marriage, his children's baptisms and his burial have been checked by the kind souls at BLARS - no occupation given. They have also checked for a will for John, but they could not find one.

I haven't ruled out the John Carver from Dunton - until Samuel happened along he was top of the pile.

Not a huge believer  in naming patterns myself as most of my lot don't seem to go in for it. John didn't name any of his children Samuel or Thomas but both names appear in the next generation. Maybe there is some link between the families other than father/son.

Yes a check for burials for both John and Samuel in Herts would seem a good next plan.

Regards
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: CARVER Ramblings
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 01 February 07 16:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jan

I wonder if the Dunton family were wheelwrights? Or alternatively if John served his apprenticeship with John Wilson, and took over the business in 1779 - but if that were the case he would probably have been described as of Wrestlingworth when he married in 1781.

Did the witnesses at his marriage add anything of value?

Regards

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: CARVER Ramblings
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 01 February 07 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi David
The Parish Register entries given to me by Waterfall early in this thread don't give any witnesses for the marriage - they should be there as it was after 1754 ???  Need to look into that. And no residence given, so making him of Cockayne Hatley.

Hmm need to think on this some more

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: CARVER Ramblings
« Reply #75 on: Thursday 01 February 07 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jan

I think Susan took the details from the transcript which doesn't include marriage witnesses. You need the  PR microfilm for those details. The transcript does give details if from another parish though.

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David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: CARVER Ramblings
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 01 February 07 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks David - need to contact those nice people at BLARS again. I've found a bastardy recognisance mentioned for John likely father of the Dunton John which may be worth looking into from occupation point of view.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: CARVER Ramblings
« Reply #77 on: Sunday 04 February 07 03:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Neil
Welcome back. I haven't anymore to offer on this lot at the moment.
Jan ;)

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Re: CARVER Ramblings
« Reply #78 on: Sunday 04 February 07 03:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi all pommy carvers
Att Jan + Bedfordshire Boy + Easby Carver etc
The worm has finally arived down under
I have found your site but stuck re connecting/contributing etc.
I'm carrying the "naughty" Carver gene , per the transported ( 1792) Benjamin, son of Rev John who was the son of Thomas deacon of Southill .
 Very keen to get the hang of connecting
Aussie Carver ( beverley


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« Reply #79 on: Sunday 04 February 07 08:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Beverley
Welcome to Rootschat :D Your second post has connected fine. You should get email notification of any replies or just login to Rootchat and click on show new replies link (in blue at top right under your name). At the moment I'm unclear whether I'm directly descended from the Southill Carvers but am sure there is some kind of link. More rootling to be done. Would like to hear tales of your Benjamin.
Happy hunting
Jan ;)

PS your sending of a Personal Message to me was successful too - I will email you
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 05:13 GMT (UK) »
Melbourn (camb) Carvers
1770 school establised by Rev Wm Carver (dissenter)
He was the son of Rev John Carver (D) originally of Southill . He also preached at Kirtling in 1770s ( where William was born). and finally at Port Pot ( he had it built) of Wellingborough where he died 1797.
 The Rev William 's son ,Wm Crole b 1794 mar Eliz Scruby and  continued running the school. They had 9 children born in Melbourn .
I am descended from  Rev William's brother Benjamin who was the family sinner and as a result of his highway activities, was transported in 1792.
beverley Humphries