CARVER Ramblings

[janan]

Look forward to hearing more
Jan

[Easby Carver]

'Wrestlingworth-Walpole' Carvers

A couple of 'my' Carvers for you:

GEORGE THOMAS CARVER b Walpole @ 1876
This is my Grand Uncle who on the 1901 census appeared in Leeds as a Bookkeeper aged 24.

THOMAS HENRY CARVER b Walpole @ 1878
This is my 1st cousin twice removed who I have only on the 1881
census.  There is a WW1 record for a Private Thomas H. Carver (62684) who served in the Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry (KOYLI) which may or may not be one and the same person.

These two were first cousins.

Cheers, Neil.

[janan]

Hi Neil
Do you have access to the censuses?

I've found Thomas in 1891 his birthplace is given as Walpole St Andrews Suffolk. Thomas senior is remarried to an Isabella (Endersby) from Wrestlingworth. Can post details if you need them.
Jan

[Easby Carver]

Hi Jan.

The info about THOMAS HENRY I obtained from the online 1881 census (National Archives) where THOMAS HY CARVER is recorded as born abt 1879 in Walpole, Norfolk, England.  He is located at Stanley-cum-Wrenthorpe aka Wrenthorpe near to East Ardsley, in present-day West Yorkshire.  He is there with siblings Thomas William, Matilda Jane and Ada Emma along with his father THOMAS.

The info on GEORGE THOMAS came from the 1881 census records for East Ardsley at the Leeds Records Office which records Walpole, Norfolk as the birthplace and the age as 4.  A GEORGE THOMAS is on the 1901 online census aged 24, in Leeds born at Walpole.

I checked my AA Atlas and Walpole St. Andrew is shown as being in Norfolk, unless there is another Walpole St. Andrew...any 1891 info is particularly useful for me because I have not found where the East Ardsley/Wrenthorpe Carvers were in 1891 but I have found a lot of them in 1901.   I recall Endersby being a common Wrestlingworth name.

Cheers,

Neil

[Nick Carver]

I can well see why there may be some confusion about Walpole. There are several villages called collectively The Walpoles. as far as I know, there is one church at Walpole St Peter to cover them all. Presumably there was a St Andrews church once upon a time.

[janan]

Neil
Here is the 1891 info for you

Mill Lane, Hanging Heaton, Soothill, Yorkshire
Thomas Carver Head M 43 Railway Platelayer Wrestlingworth Beds
Isabella do Wife M 31 Gilden Morden Cambs
Matilda do Daughter S 17 Woollen Cloth weaver Leeds
Ada do do 14 Castleford Yorks
Thomas do Son 11 Scholar Walpole St Andrews Suffolk
Ellen do Dau 9 do East Ardsley Yorks
Jesse do do 4 Leeds
Joseph Endersby Son 7 Wrestlingworth
Alfred do do 6 do
George do do 8mo do
RG12/3736/15 Pg23

I'm sure the Suffolk bit is just a mistake.
Yes I've come across alot of Endersbys in Wrestlingworth.
I'll see if I can find George in 1891 - don't hestitate to ask if there is anyone else you need looking for.

By the way have you any Carver photos? All I have is one of Robert Carver my great grandfather (John's great grandson) - happy to email you a copy should you want. I also have a copy of a booklet from 2002 "Wrestlingworth Recalled" which is well worth getting - I'll try and find how I got hold of it.

Jan

[janan]

1891
15 Derby Pl Hunslet
Samuel  Carver Head M 39 Foundry labourer Beds Wrestlingworth
Emma do Wife 36 Beds Sutton
Jonah H do Son 18 Cabinet Maker do do
Ada M Dau 16 Tailoress do do
George T do Son 14 Errand boy Norfolk Walpole
Frederick Wm do do 12 Scholar Lincs Tydd go?t
Fanny E do Dau 10 do East Ardsley Yorks
Louisa do do 6 do do do do
Samuel do Son 4 Leeds
RG12/3665/50 Pg43

Jan

[Nick Carver]

Photographs are a good idea. My 6th cousin reckons there are traditional Carver looks. Try his web site http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/Glenn-W-Carver/index.html and see if the swarthy dark complexion fits any of your ancestors. That might be a reasonable way to suspect a link, however it proves nothing one way or another.

[janan]

Interesting site Nick and yes my great grandfather Robert Carver does bear a resemblance but as you say this proves nothing

Jan