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Offline Peter Hyde

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 18 March 07 23:12 GMT (UK) »
Thinking about ownership - when a public company is required to maintain records by an Act of Parliament, those records are public records and the LLC is required to publish its accounts and make them freely available to share-holders in a manner proscribed by government regulations. 

So when an organisation like the Church is required by Act of Parliament to maintain records, could it not be argued that those records are public records and must be made freely available to church members in a manner proscribed by government regulations, and not just in a manner seen fit by the local archivist? 

I am prepared to swallow my agnostic beliefs and dig out my baptism record to prove membership!

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Peter Hyde
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Norfolk (Depwade District)- Nudds, Betts, Bush, Websdale
Berkshire (Thatcham) - Hyde/Hide, Pocock
Cambridgeshire - Wayman, Amory, Preece
Suffolk - Nudds, Steward, Greenleaf
Essex (Colchester) Greenleaf

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #28 on: Monday 19 March 07 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi All:

Here is the reply from Dr. Durrant, the Chief Archivist for Berkshire, regarding my last letter to him asking for parish register films to be more accessible.

"PD/DR/G

19 March 2007

Dear Mr Hyde

Thank you for your email of 14 March.  I have taken note of the points you raise.

In view of the level of interest in this issue I propose to bring it before my governing board at its next meeting in June.

Yours sincerely

DR PETER DURRANT
County Archivist


Berkshire Record Office"

Can someone tell me who the Governing Board consists of - preferably names, e-mail addresses, job-titles.  And also, whether these board meetings are open to the public, and whether they accept submissions at those meetings from the public.  You see where I am going with this.........

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Peter Hyde
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Norfolk (Depwade District)- Nudds, Betts, Bush, Websdale
Berkshire (Thatcham) - Hyde/Hide, Pocock
Cambridgeshire - Wayman, Amory, Preece
Suffolk - Nudds, Steward, Greenleaf
Essex (Colchester) Greenleaf

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #29 on: Monday 19 March 07 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter,
Should ask Dr Durrant, as only he knows which meeting he will be attending.  ;)

Lesanne.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #30 on: Monday 19 March 07 17:21 GMT (UK) »
 Hi  Peter, well done! :)

I hope the people of the governing board, as well as Dr Durrant, realize they had better do something positive regarding public access to these records as this issue will not go away.
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 22 September 07 22:55 BST (UK) »
Has there been any update on this issue?
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 26 September 07 19:44 BST (UK) »
Did anybody start a petition on this matter?

Joanne
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Bailey,Macclesfield/Manchester
Parry, Davies; Staffordshire/ Manchester
Siddall, Walker, Mercer; Manchester
Davis, Henshaw; Middlesex/London
Wicks, Harbor; Berkshire
Weedon, Harland;Yorkshire

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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 26 September 07 20:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Joanne,
  No, not that I know or heard of. I really don't think anything has been done to help with online references from the Oxford/Berkshire area.

Lesanne.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 26 September 07 20:41 BST (UK) »
This is what Dr. Durrant, Chief Archivist for Berkshire wrote to me following their June meeting.  It seems to say that the status-quo of inaccessibiltiy via the Internet will be maintained.

"18 June 2007

Dear Mr Hyde

Thank you for your messages to Archives Board members concerning publication of parish register transcripts.  Board members have asked me to reply to you on their behalf.

Board members considered a way forward for granting permissions for publication of such scripts.  Board concluded that they wished to see Berkshire Record Office develop licences to permit publication.  We are now tasked with developing an agreement for such licences.  Board have asked that the agreement includes terms relating to intellectual property rights in transcripts or indexes, rights for re-use, quality control processes for creating and checking transcripts or indexes, a commitment to a royalty based on use or sales of them, and a time period for which licences would last.  These agreements will be required of any organisation or individual seeking to publish transcript or index information from any items which we hold.

While we set about this we have also recommenced a dialogue with the Diocese of Oxford.  I have to say that the initial Diocesan view is not to permit any publication of transcripts or indexes online.  We will, however, continue our discussion with them in the hope that we can reach an agreement that satisfies owners, custodians and users alike.

The situation regarding publication of transcripts by freereg is therefore unchanged from our correspondence earlier this year.  I appreciate that this will be disappointing.  I would like to assure you that we are still happy to offer you, or anyone else unable to visit, access to parish registers through our paid research service.

Yours sincerely

PETER DURRANT
County Archivist"

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Peter Hyde
Alberta, Canada
Norfolk (Depwade District)- Nudds, Betts, Bush, Websdale
Berkshire (Thatcham) - Hyde/Hide, Pocock
Cambridgeshire - Wayman, Amory, Preece
Suffolk - Nudds, Steward, Greenleaf
Essex (Colchester) Greenleaf

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 26 September 07 20:53 BST (UK) »
  :D Thanks for your great reply Peter. Again, very informative.
Looks to me that they will be part of the Archive themselves before anyone get to see it online.  ::)

Lesanne.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner